shudras lower than other castes?

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>> in the future the differences between the varnas will probably become

>> more obvious and distinct and there will emerge a class of shudras who

>> believe in Krishna, the soul and the law of karma but who are not able

>> to follow the 4 regulative principles.

>

>I know sudra devotees who do follow the 4 regs, so let's not be too quick

> to drop our standards. I agree in the sense that for a sudra the minimal

>standard is set lower,, but let us remember that in order to be more

>flexible on the lower side, we don't need to compromise the upper side.

 

 

I don't know why you think that there will be future differences between

varnas if there is no economic and governmental base for that. But even

assuming that will happen, it will be almost impossible to accommodate

inside ISKCON. No acaryas ever build a society of devotees are engaged in

illicit sex as a rule. Just an opposite, acaryas will be fighting AGAINST

the movements where the illicit sex and intoxications where OKed for

vaisnavas. So your conclusions are showing that even people agree in general

that yes we want to be divided -- there is unlimited possibilities of

serious disagreements and even spits. And all because there is no example on

how to do it PRACTICALLY and HOW IT WAS DONE BY PRABHUPADA. I know devotees

like to pick up one or two instructions of Prabhupada and say: this is main

point of his mission, we should do this and mainly this (especially if it is

some personal value for them). Now Prabhupada was talking about implementing

varnas in his farms (PA in particular), so before we assume it works we

should show one example where it works and how it is based on his

instructions. Where are the examples of varnas based on economy in the

farms? (it may be there, but I just wanted more reassurance...)