Jump to content
IndiaDivine.org

A sannyasi keeps 'his' donations - is this a joke?

Rate this topic


Guest guest

Recommended Posts

What about the case of the sannyasi president in Hawaii who aquired a boat

supposedly for ISKCON and at the end just took-off with it? In Mexico City

a previous temple president (a "brahmacari") who stayed on the job for five

years left with a bunch of vehicles saying they were his. The local GBC

never supervised his actions and deprived Srila Prabhupada's mission of

such vehicles. Again, in Mexico City, also under the supervision of the

same GBC, "shareholders" of the Movement's incense business refuse to

return what is theirs only on paper. One of them actually already said that

the shares are his and wants his 20% in assets and profits. And these

scenes keep repeating countless times around the world.

 

The point is that "in open coffers even a saint will steal" (as they say

around here--and in Spanish). In ISKCON it keeps happening again and again

in different degrees, from temple petty cash used for private use to

million dollar silencing-fees for "classic" acaryas. It is naive to think

that devotees, even "advanced" ones, will make sure by themselves that

there won't be more abuses or plain open stealing. There is still plenty of

laksmi to blow or steal in ISKCON, and 21 years of plundering tell us that

this can go on as long as clear rules are not established.

 

Some time ago I suggested in the Prabhupada Disciples conference that all

GBC's, gurus, sannyasis, etc, that receive any donations, should receive

them on behalf of a specific project and issue a receipt. They will be

known as great contributors to specific causes that they decide to support.

The projects themselves, or other arrangements, should pay for the

maintenance of such leaders (travel, etc.) but the income should be

strictly officially accounted for. Lets see for example the case of

princess Di. She would chose a specific cause to help (such as stopping

land-mines, or a cancer center, etc.) and the money would go specifically

for that project. People liked her but they also knew clearly where the

money was going. It is not that she, as an individual, would request

contributions and then decide by herself how to spend it. Well, that is how

ISKCON is still foolishly doing things after so many years and after so

many bad experiences.

 

Baffled by the lack of assertive leadership,

Radha Krsna dasa

Mexico City

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Varnasrama development <varnasrama.development (AT) com (DOT) bbt.se>

"A sannyasi keeps 'his' donations" - is this a joke?

 

On 16 Dec 1998, Mahanidhi das wrote:

> Vijaya-venugopala prabhu wrote:

> > No doubt some sannyasis may have (or may still do, I have no first

hand knowledge) utilised donations given to them, for their own sense

> > gratification...

 

> It's a hard one, with countless pros and cons. A recent example I can give

is of a sannyasi here who recently purchased a bus for his preaching. He is

going to furbish it out, and will likely mostly use it for himself. Now, is

this okay? I don't know where to begin weighing the pros and cons. Is it sense

gratification? Who's to judge? Certainly there are doubts in my mind.

 

We've seen this scenario happen before many, many times: A sannyasi

"renounces" the association of a wife because it is "too troublesome," only to

establish a home of his own (like "Sannyasi Lane" in Vrndavan) and only to be

served by numerous women, or a particularly qualified and "devoted" one. The

"detachment" of these sannyasis is also seen by the fetishness in how manage

their personnel and resources.

 

I am sorry, but I am cynical by repeated observation and training. Sannyasis

are supposed to epitomize Krsna conscious practice and serve as a model for

the rest of the Vedic social orders; they are meant to become its

obsolescence.

 

Disgusted,

Srila dasa

 

> It's a fact that Prabhupada had great opulence and stated that if he didn't

have so many temples and opulence and just sat under a tree who would take him

seriously? So he opened great temples etc... But the one great thing about

Prabhupada, which deeply inspired his followers, was that he did not use any

of it for his own pleasure. He just travelled constantly, living out of a

simple suitcase. Very simple, and very austere, especially at his advanced

age. Deep complex topics it seems. Haribol.

Ys,

Bhaktavatsala dasa (NZ)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
×
×
  • Create New...