see *some* women as mother?

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> This "superiority" is today

> taken

> to absurd levels,

 

 

I think in many cases "superiority" is mistaken for competition between

males and females. Males simply have less conscience and can try to verbally

demoralize their competition. Strong females are not very much effected by

such cowardice in men and can usually defeat them on a more cerebral level

if they are truly more capable in the given situation.

 

 

> with many very able women endlessly have to fight for

> their rightful position and function in socity.

 

Of course, the question can be raised as to what they are fighting for. I've

known many intelligent women who have battled men for positions of authority

only to find themselves in the position that many intelligent men are now

trying to get themselves out of because of the stress, fruitiveness,

capitalist politics, lack of free time, no time with their families, etc.

 

As society moves further away from the natural tendencies as defined in the

Varnasrama-dharma insititution for the particular body given at birth and

more definitively characterized through a natural proclivity towards a

particular type of work, the more it shall assume social roles which are

concocted and relative only to a temporary social structure based upon sense

gratification. This will prove unfortunate for the followers of this path,

men or women.

 

Many women want to take on the roles that men have historically dominated

thinking that this will be better for them simply because they CAN do it.

This is the thinking of Arjuna when he was in maya. There is little doubt

that Arjuna could have gone to the forest and begged for his living,

meditated, and lived a life of non-violence and been very good at it. He was

expert, determined, skilled, talented and had great conviction in everything

he did. He could have joined a Hare Krsna temple, giving up his brothers,

family, livelihood, education, weapons, wives, and other material

attachments and become a sannyasi, GBC and guru of great fame. Who would

doubt? Like in my early days of ISKCON, that is exactly what he would have

been TOLD to do, too.

 

 

But that, of course, is not the song of the Lord, is it? It is better to do

one's own duty imperfectly rather than to do anothers duty perfectly. We

simply have to ask ourselves, men and women, what is our duty? As a human

being there are four divisions of civilized social and occupational life.

Which do I fit into? What are my natural tendencies and proclivities? If we

take serious time to consider these things, free from the outside influence

of peer pressure, false prestige, pretentiousness, and the desire for

recognition, we can come to the answer. It is in our hearts if we really

want to know. We have to realize that our truthful occupation, however

humble it may be, is the only occupation which will please Krsna. No amount

of pretentiousness will help even if we LOOK like the biggest brahmana or

sannyasi or ksatriya or guru, whatever, in the universe. If its not who we

really are, like Arjuna realized, we will remain in the material world

(material consciousness) and suffer.

 

 

If I am a ksatriya trying to be a brahmana this is not what Krsna advises.

If I am a woman trying to be a man, this is not what Krsna advises. A

sincere woman, sweeping the street or churning butter or whatever, will get

to Krsnaloka far sooner than the big, big, pretentious sannyasi, by far.

Again, the story of the tortoise and the hare.

 

> man or women first, and a person just second.

 

We all have our cross to bear. We were given these particular bodies due to

our own activities, no one elses. It is completely our fault that we are in

this particular body with any and all of its sufferings and desires. I am

not this body but this body IS my complete responsibility to take care of. I

am Janesvara dasa, the spirit soul inhabiting this body, but this body is

Joel Fairbank and there are many things I must do to meet my

responsibilities of this body until that far distant day comes when I am

truly liberated by becoming a pure unalloyed devotee of the Lord. And even

then, no one would really notice any change in my activities of life. I

would probably look like a perfect materialist just doing my duty.

 

The above are my opinions, of course.

 

yfs,

Jd