Guest guest Posted April 10, 1999 Report Share Posted April 10, 1999 At 12:10 PM -0400 4/10/99, WWW: Sthita-dhi-muni (Dasa) SDG (Alachua FL - USA) wrote: >[Text 2223544 from COM] > >If I wasn't certain whether I was a gentleman or a lady, I might feel that the >heading "Gentleman (and ladies)!" was offensive, or at least discriminating. > Well, if you want to cover all your bases, there's always the term "hijra" which means neither ... nor. Ys, Madhusudani dasi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 1999 Report Share Posted April 11, 1999 > At 12:10 PM -0400 4/10/99, WWW: Sthita-dhi-muni (Dasa) SDG (Alachua FL - > USA) wrote: > >[Text 2223544 from COM] > > > >If I wasn't certain whether I was a gentleman or a lady, I might feel > >that the heading "Gentleman (and ladies)!" was offensive, or at least > >discriminating. > > > > Well, if you want to cover all your bases, there's always the term "hijra" > which means neither ... nor. > > Ys, > Madhusudani dasi In India a Hijra is a male eunuch, who dresses in Sari etc. Just before I left India there was a lot of problem with Hijra's forming gangs and terrorising people. Dodgy types nowadays. YS Samba das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 1999 Report Share Posted April 11, 1999 >> Well, if you want to cover all your bases, there's always the term "hijra" >> which means neither ... nor. >> >> Ys, >> Madhusudani dasi > >In India a Hijra is a male eunuch, who dresses in Sari etc. The term "hijras" is used to denote a rather heterogenous group of men, from uncastrated transvestites, to castrated men, transexuals, hermaphrodites and pseudo-hermaphrodites. Some support themselves by singing and dancing, others by prostitution or other activities (both legal and illegal). It's a complex culture that has received a great deal of study. I've interviewed several hijras for one of our research projects and woulde be glad to recommend literature if you are interested in learning more. However, my original comment above was simply a suggestion for a term one could use if you needed to describe a third gender, that is referred to even in sastra. Ys, Madhusudani dasi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 1999 Report Share Posted April 12, 1999 Whatever happened to good old "prabhu"? ys hkdd "COM: Madhusudani Radha (dd) JPS (Mill Valley - USA)" wrote: > [Text 2224558 from COM] > > >> Well, if you want to cover all your bases, there's always the term "hijra" > >> which means neither ... nor. > >> > >> Ys, > >> Madhusudani dasi > > > >In India a Hijra is a male eunuch, who dresses in Sari etc. > > The term "hijras" is used to denote a rather heterogenous group of men, > from uncastrated transvestites, to castrated men, transexuals, > hermaphrodites and pseudo-hermaphrodites. Some support themselves by > singing and dancing, others by prostitution or other activities (both legal > and illegal). It's a complex culture that has received a great deal of > study. I've interviewed several hijras for one of our research projects and > woulde be glad to recommend literature if you are interested in learning > more. However, my original comment above was simply a suggestion for a > term one could use if you needed to describe a third gender, that is > referred to even in sastra. > > Ys, > Madhusudani dasi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 1999 Report Share Posted April 12, 1999 Whatever happened to good old "prabhu"? ys hkdd "COM: Madhusudani Radha (dd) JPS (Mill Valley - USA)" wrote: > [Text 2224558 from COM] > > >> Well, if you want to cover all your bases, there's always the term "hijra" > >> which means neither ... nor. > >> > >> Ys, > >> Madhusudani dasi > > > >In India a Hijra is a male eunuch, who dresses in Sari etc. > > The term "hijras" is used to denote a rather heterogenous group of men, > from uncastrated transvestites, to castrated men, transexuals, > hermaphrodites and pseudo-hermaphrodites. Some support themselves by > singing and dancing, others by prostitution or other activities (both legal > and illegal). It's a complex culture that has received a great deal of > study. I've interviewed several hijras for one of our research projects and > woulde be glad to recommend literature if you are interested in learning > more. However, my original comment above was simply a suggestion for a > term one could use if you needed to describe a third gender, that is > referred to even in sastra. > > Ys, > Madhusudani dasi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 1999 Report Share Posted April 13, 1999 At 6:12 -0800 4/12/99, COM: Hare Krsna dasi (Brunswick, Maine - USA) wrote: >[Text 2227935 from COM] > >Whatever happened to good old "prabhu"? ......and the fact that we're supposed to see *everyone* as our "prabhu"? That would include all genders. Ys, Madhusudani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 1999 Report Share Posted April 13, 1999 At 6:12 -0800 4/12/99, COM: Hare Krsna dasi (Brunswick, Maine - USA) wrote: >[Text 2227935 from COM] > >Whatever happened to good old "prabhu"? ......and the fact that we're supposed to see *everyone* as our "prabhu"? That would include all genders. Ys, Madhusudani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 1999 Report Share Posted April 13, 1999 > > > >Whatever happened to good old "prabhu"? > > .....and the fact that we're supposed to see *everyone* as our "prabhu"? That would include all genders. > > Not wanting to create controversy, but, what do we call earthworms? I heard they are naturally both male and female in the same body. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 1999 Report Share Posted April 13, 1999 > > > >Whatever happened to good old "prabhu"? > > .....and the fact that we're supposed to see *everyone* as our "prabhu"? That would include all genders. > > Not wanting to create controversy, but, what do we call earthworms? I heard they are naturally both male and female in the same body. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 1999 Report Share Posted April 13, 1999 "COM: Madhusudani Radha (dd) JPS (Mill Valley - USA)" wrote: > [Text 2228710 from COM] > > At 6:12 -0800 4/12/99, COM: Hare Krsna dasi (Brunswick, Maine - USA) wrote: > >[Text 2227935 from COM] > > > >Whatever happened to good old "prabhu"? > > .....and the fact that we're supposed to see *everyone* as our "prabhu"? > That would include all genders. > > Ys, > Madhusudani Perfect! In that case, I hope that Prsni prabhu will assist us by continuing to act as our able moderator. your servant, Hare Krsna dasi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 1999 Report Share Posted April 13, 1999 "COM: Madhusudani Radha (dd) JPS (Mill Valley - USA)" wrote: > [Text 2228710 from COM] > > At 6:12 -0800 4/12/99, COM: Hare Krsna dasi (Brunswick, Maine - USA) wrote: > >[Text 2227935 from COM] > > > >Whatever happened to good old "prabhu"? > > .....and the fact that we're supposed to see *everyone* as our "prabhu"? > That would include all genders. > > Ys, > Madhusudani Perfect! In that case, I hope that Prsni prabhu will assist us by continuing to act as our able moderator. your servant, Hare Krsna dasi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 1999 Report Share Posted April 13, 1999 "WWW: Sthita-dhi-muni (Dasa) SDG (Alachua FL - USA)" wrote: > [Text 2231086 from COM] > > > > > > >Whatever happened to good old "prabhu"? > > > > > .....and the fact that we're supposed to see *everyone* as our "prabhu"? > That would include all genders. > > > > > > Not wanting to create controversy, but, what do we call earthworms? I heard > they are naturally both male and female in the same body. Well, actually, Balabhadra prabhu, our Minister of Cow Protection and Agriculture, is the expert on this, but please excuse me if I answer according to what I have heard from him. If you are talking about the same Bhakt Earthworm who converts cow manure into nutritious soil so that Bhakta Tomato Plant can produce tomatoes to make chutney to offer to Sri Sri Radha Damodara on the altar, then I think you must be talking about our dear friend -- Wormy Prabhu. Is that the Bhakta Earthworm you are referring to? your servant, Hare Krsna dasi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 1999 Report Share Posted April 13, 1999 On 13 Apr 1999, Hare Krsna dasi wrote: > Perfect! In that case, I hope that Prsni prabhu will assist us by continuing > to act as our able moderator. Haribol! Although I definitely consider some of his actions undesirable, I too agree that nothing should prevent Prsnigarbha prabhu from staying on as moderator. A moderator is supposed to facilitate, and I don't see how his personal choices affect that. I have not seen him acting like an absolute authority over the group, so there should be no difficulty in remaining on as moderator. Yours, Vijay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 1999 Report Share Posted April 13, 1999 "WWW: Sthita-dhi-muni (Dasa) SDG (Alachua FL - USA)" wrote: > [Text 2231086 from COM] > > > > > > >Whatever happened to good old "prabhu"? > > > > > .....and the fact that we're supposed to see *everyone* as our "prabhu"? > That would include all genders. > > > > > > Not wanting to create controversy, but, what do we call earthworms? I heard > they are naturally both male and female in the same body. Well, actually, Balabhadra prabhu, our Minister of Cow Protection and Agriculture, is the expert on this, but please excuse me if I answer according to what I have heard from him. If you are talking about the same Bhakt Earthworm who converts cow manure into nutritious soil so that Bhakta Tomato Plant can produce tomatoes to make chutney to offer to Sri Sri Radha Damodara on the altar, then I think you must be talking about our dear friend -- Wormy Prabhu. Is that the Bhakta Earthworm you are referring to? your servant, Hare Krsna dasi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 1999 Report Share Posted April 13, 1999 >Not wanting to create controversy, but, what do we call earthworms? Earthworms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 1999 Report Share Posted April 13, 1999 >Not wanting to create controversy, but, what do we call earthworms? Earthworms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 1999 Report Share Posted April 14, 1999 then I think you must be talking about our dear friend -- Wormy > Prabhu. Is that the Bhakta Earthworm you are referring to? > > your servant, > > Hare Krsna dasi > > I hope Bhakta Wormy is able to follow all the regs living in constant association of the other maya gender. Boy, no matter how down to earth you get, spiritual life remains a challenge. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 1999 Report Share Posted April 14, 1999 then I think you must be talking about our dear friend -- Wormy > Prabhu. Is that the Bhakta Earthworm you are referring to? > > your servant, > > Hare Krsna dasi > > I hope Bhakta Wormy is able to follow all the regs living in constant association of the other maya gender. Boy, no matter how down to earth you get, spiritual life remains a challenge. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 1999 Report Share Posted April 14, 1999 On 13 Apr 1999, Madhusudani Radha wrote: > > >Not wanting to create controversy, but, what do we call earthworms? > > Earthworms. > > Is that something you read in MacMillian, or the newer BBT edition of the Gita? .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 1999 Report Share Posted April 14, 1999 On 13 Apr 1999, Madhusudani Radha wrote: > > >Not wanting to create controversy, but, what do we call earthworms? > > Earthworms. > > Is that something you read in MacMillian, or the newer BBT edition of the Gita? .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 1999 Report Share Posted April 14, 1999 > > >Not wanting to create controversy, but, what do we call earthworms? > > Earthworms. To the point and concise, thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 1999 Report Share Posted April 14, 1999 > > >Not wanting to create controversy, but, what do we call earthworms? > > Earthworms. To the point and concise, thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 1999 Report Share Posted April 14, 1999 PAMHO > Haribol! Although I definitely consider some of his actions > undesirable This was a very interesting statement. Not that I want to "pick a fight" but, that someone that I don't know, don't know me, and certainly know nothing about my actions, should comment on them as "undesirable" is certainly amazing. But you make me curious, what particular action, that I supposedly have made, is undesirable? ys Prisni dasi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 1999 Report Share Posted April 14, 1999 PAMHO > Haribol! Although I definitely consider some of his actions > undesirable This was a very interesting statement. Not that I want to "pick a fight" but, that someone that I don't know, don't know me, and certainly know nothing about my actions, should comment on them as "undesirable" is certainly amazing. But you make me curious, what particular action, that I supposedly have made, is undesirable? ys Prisni dasi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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