Where does it start?

[Guest guest]

Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

Sorry for jumping out of the discussion but I really have no comments of

Prisnigarbha Prabhus choice, both his/her birth as a man and his/her

possibility of changing that seems to be part of her karma and whatever she

makes out of it will be part of her karma too, unless ofcourse it is a part

of her devotional service, which I dont know.

 

I was presented with the point in another conference that the brahmanas are

the most important and that without them the society is headless. Therefor

we should focus on creating and protecting the brahmanas and especially the

young brahmacaries.

However in my perception of a brahmacari/brahmacarini it means someone who

is cultivating spiritual knowledge under a teacher. Is it not true that this

teacher would mainly be an older experienced person and mostly married?

 

Another point is what is a brahmana? One of his qualifications is that he

is wise, doesn't that most often indicate an older person who have already

had different experiences in life?

 

What I see is a closed club of more or less young brahmacaries training

even younger brahmacaries, and as soon as they get married they are out of

the club, but is that the varnasrama-system? It seems to me that while

avoiding contact with grhastas/older people they will miss important lessons

which they will need later on both if they get married or if they will be

guides to others.

Another thing I see is the devotee-children not taking to that kind of

brahmacari-asrama.

 

Is it that varnasrama develops from the brahmanas. Or does it manifest

simultanously through cooperation between the different varnas and asramas

from the very start?

 

I would be interested to hear some other experiences and wise words on

these matters.

 

Your servant Gunamani d.d.

[Guest guest]

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> I was presented with the point in another conference that the brahmanas are

> the most important and that without them the society is headless. Therefor

> we should focus on creating and protecting the brahmanas and especially the

> young brahmacaries.

 

Yes, that has been the operative assumption since Srila Prabhupada's

implementation of VAD was interuppted by his leaving the planet. The results

after20+ years is a show bottle society racked by divisions and strife.

 

Without an economic base, a society that only has a head is like Rahu.

 

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> However in my perception of a brahmacari/brahmacarini it means someone who

> is cultivating spiritual knowledge under a teacher. Is it not true that this

> teacher would mainly be an older experienced person and mostly married?

 

Like Krsna's guru? Yes.