Guest guest Posted April 20, 1999 Report Share Posted April 20, 1999 > On 17 Apr 1999, Prsnigarbha das wrote: > > You have funny conceptions of what is a woman. What makes someone > > a woman? On 19 Apr 1999, Vijay Pai wrote:> > There is one incontrovertible piece of evidence: an XX in > chromosome pair 23. It's that XX that gives real women less likely > to suffer from sex-linked diseases like hemophilia, etc., while > men are stuck with their XY pair. > I've been thinking alot about this recently, being it is such an important issue. Since Madhusudhani and Prsni d. have us convinced real women do not need breasts, ovaries, or a uterus, then the only thing left that distinguishes men and women is how they choose to use the toilet seat when they need to pass water. That's the answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 1999 Report Share Posted April 20, 1999 At 17:51 -0800 4/19/99, Robert Cope wrote: >What is wrong with debating an important philosophical point especially when >a GBC member may be deviating from such a misunderstanding. I remember reading a GBC resolution (or letter by the GBC) to Malati and other sannyasinis several years ago, stating that giving up that title was a condition of their return to ISKCON. It basically stated that they may continue to be renounced, but that the title and danda had to go. Malati prabhu accepted those terms before her re-entry, which was years before being nominated and voted in as a GBC. (actually the letter may also have addressed conditions for re-entry by other New Vrindavan devotees, but I remember it had a special section for women who had taken sannyasa from Kirtananda) I have seen Malati several times since then and whenever anyone has referred to her past, she has always talked about being a sannyasini in past tense. Yes, she's often given a great deal of respect, but that is due to her seniority and renunciation, not to any title. Ys, Madhusudani dasi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 1999 Report Share Posted April 20, 1999 > > What is wrong with debating an important philosophical point especially > when a GBC member may be deviating from such a misunderstanding. > "A GBC member may be deviating" is something what you got first to investigate in more accurately before you throw in public that GBC member's name for the public scrutinizing, under the label "debating an important philosophical point." I mean, I am really impressed seeing you so desperate to get on with bashing Malati prabhu (who happened to be the only non-male member on the GBC, btw.), so much so that you couldn't wait till some actual opportunity occurs. But you got to force upon your "important philosophical point" so passionately. You see, you seem simply to be too much eager to discuss "an important philosophical point" that my alarms went all off. (You asked me what's wrong, so I answered per your request. You don't have to agree with, of course.) > I find it very strange that you of all people would raise such a point. > Weren't you the one who anonymously submitted the GHQ quotes for the > benefit of all mankind under a pseudonym. What was your name again? I > remember something about nitwit dasa or something along that vein. Is this > truly a pseudonym or a name given to you by another guru since your other > one blooped? If so, he hasn't been very gracious to you. > Don't worry for my "another guru's" un/graciousness, we two will be able to handle it in between us, without your "very gracious" interference. > In any event I would like to mention that this organization is Srila > Prabhupada's and the quality and direction must have root in his mood and > vision. It is my personal understanding that a lady taking sannyasa is a > deviation sprouting from the demon Kirtananda. I say a demon because he > has erred from religious principles and there is not much in between > demoniac and relligious principles. So does anyone have any sastric quotes > that allow such an action? How about you, Ardabhuti dasa (if memory serves > me well). (Sorry to notice it but, I can's say that your memory serves you well. You started the letter with "And Mahanidi replied", and just few lines after you lost the idea what my name was.) I don't have such quotes. I guess you won your debate now. ys mnd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 1999 Report Share Posted April 20, 1999 > What is wrong with debating an important philosophical point especially > when a GBC member may be deviating from such a misunderstanding. I have the feeling you are not very much into that women should have any authority ever, right? Your important philosophical points may seem to be tingued with envy of women in positions, as also is seen with the rest of the GHQ members. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 1999 Report Share Posted April 20, 1999 Obviously, from this posting and the one you made before on this matter you don't understand english. Please don't bother me with your nonsense. It is not my fault you are so attached to that rascal Kirtananda. When are you going to take the statue of the Christian saint off of your lawn? Obviously, Bhakti Keith is still honoured by some. On 19 Apr 1999, Madhava Gosh wrote: .. > > So , since sannyasis are not supposed to manage men or money according to > religious principles, if would appear you are saying most of our sannyasis are > demons? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 1999 Report Share Posted April 20, 1999 On 20 Apr 1999, Jatukarnya das wrote: > > What is wrong with debating an important philosophical point especially > > when a GBC member may be deviating from such a misunderstanding. > > I have the feeling you are not very much into that women should have any > authority ever, right? Your important philosophical points may seem to be > tingued with envy of women in positions, as also is seen with the rest of > the GHQ members. What nonesense! I have never participated in the GHQ confernece. Prove me wrong on that one. Those against the ideas presented by the GHQ group have quoted little sastra in making their arguments. So where is the beef? Padyavali's article on Chakra was embarassing if that is what you have to offer for a philosophical presentation. And when I saw Hare Krsna dasi start calling these devotees the Vedics or whatever it is preposterous. Where are the quotes. Hare Krishna dasi quotes Prabhupada in regards to the cows ad nauseum but I didn't see anything quoted on the women's issue by her. Please don't expect me to continue on with this discussion eternally. I am in the middle of a very busy time presently. Unfortunately, I just can't find the time to discuss or even read "what is female and what is male." Prabhupada would scream at the quality of the discussion on this conference. Why don't we rename it to the Discussions conf. since there is practically nothing about varnasrama. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 1999 Report Share Posted April 20, 1999 > > Or if you get annoyed by the previous user putting the seat in the wrong > "state". I always wondered why women often get so upset about the > toilet ring beeing up, until one day I also got bitten by that bug. Scary. > Must be something primevial, affacted by the hormones. > :-) > > ys Prisni dasi In a proper Vedic home, the toilet would have been outside the dwelling. In the study of Feng shui, it is recommended that if one does have a toilet indoors, it is best to keep it covered as other wise the positive chi that is desirable to accumulate indoors drains down the toilet. >From that perspective, and acknowledging that women have a stronger propensity for nesting, and for keeping a nice home, then the need to have the toilet seat down is a simply a type of common sense that is more easily recognised by the women. So men, if your life doesn't seem to be going as well as you think it could be, seriously consider keeping the toilet seat down for a while and see if it makes a difference. (yes, I know, that is a "material" concept, but so is turning on the heat when it gets cold outside.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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