Guest guest Posted April 20, 1999 Report Share Posted April 20, 1999 On 20 Apr 1999, Samba das wrote: > > Really it seems to me that we are not going to see a highly evolved > varnasrama society for many generations, and it is our offspring, and young > converts who are the future. A lot of really smart people said that Krishna consciousness, as envisioned by Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura, could not be spread all over the world, but one person did it, because his Guru Maharaja wanted him to do it. He was not a "leader" in the institutional sense. He was a leader because of his faith in his guru's order, and he was willing to walk alone (though he tried to get help from the "leaders") on the path. Such conviction attracted followers, helpers, and well-wishers, what to speak of money and other resources. I think we could go a lot farther on the road to not just implementing, but establishing varnasrama, by thinking that it can be done, MUST be done, now, with the willingness to put our own individual desires aside at least some of the time to see that it does. Whoever says they want VAD has to be willing to make the sacrifices and commitment necessary, even if it's just to grow a garden or to become an entrepeneur or whatever seems most pressing to that person. It seems though that if one person could spread the monumental philosophy of KC around the world in one lifetime, a whole society of that person's followers (and it certainly matters if they're following and not just idolizing their leader), or even just a few of them, or even just ONE of them, could marshall the same faith, accomplishing what is a comparatively easier goal in the same amount of time. Empowerment comes from surrender, from commitment, in the face of all obstacles. The children are the hope, and I feel that the > society, instead of emphasising on the external preaching path, which we > have done for 20 odd years since Prabhupada left (the result being shrinking > temple populations, and the formation of splinter groups), we should > prioritise the training of our own people, this is the future. There's room for all kinds of activities, it's simply a matter of what the society chooses to focus on. As Prabhupada once said, "We have enough devotees, it's time to boil the milk." Of course, it's possible that the shrinking temple population is a sign of milk being reduced as it's being boiled, resulting in a sweeter, more concentrated and devoted temple population. I've also thought that Prabhupada approved the buying of so many old buildings for temples because he knew that they would become too much handle for those shrinking devotee populations, and that perhaps they would give up and move to the country. If the congregation is so attached to the Deities, they can (and should) move to the country as well. Recently I read that an entire town was being moved resulting from an airport expansion, because they wanted to keep their community together. It can be done. Instead of tearing down the marble of the temples (some of which are now falling apart) to print books, should it be torn down to start farms, real farms? New preaching centers could be started up in storefronts in the cities (ah, the good old days) and thus the cycle would be ever-renewing. This is just a dream. When Prabhupada was asked how KC could be spread all over the world, he said, "Any fool disciple of our Guru Maharaja could do it, but none of you all will." Prabhupada consented to be that "fool" for his guru in "implementing" the philosophy. Which one of us wants to be such a fool for varnasrama-dharma? Ys, Tulasi-priya dasi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 1999 Report Share Posted April 21, 1999 On 20 Apr 1999, Hare Krsna dasi wrote: > > Morning Walk Vrindaban, March 14, 1974 > > Prabhupada: (break) ...tion. You join. There will be no scarcity. This will > engage people. Some are, some of them will be engaged to produce food. Where is > the question of scarcity? There is food, there is milk. Eat and drink and be > human > beings. > > Visnujana: When we first go to open a temple in a city we get an apartment or a > storefront. But then, when more and more people come, then we should get land > and > cows and everything and... > Prabhupada: Yes, yes. > Visnujana: ...and turn it into a society. > Hrdayananda: Ah, that's wonderful. > > ************************* > > Just see -- by studying Prabhupada so much, you have now begun to think like > him! Don't say things like that to me--I'm puffed up enough as it is. But thank you for encouraging me. Because my Guru Maharaja has written so extensively and so personally about Srila Prabhupada, and because I've had the good fortune to be involved in proofreading and writing glossaries for his (my guru's) many books, and because of having the association of so many of Prabhupada's direct disciples, I feel like Prabhupada is very much still present in this world. Their bhava of service in separation creates the effect of making him more real to me than if I had seen him face to face, because I get to see him through their eyes, "smeared with the salve of love," instead of through my own materially contaminated vision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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