Guest guest Posted April 26, 1999 Report Share Posted April 26, 1999 On 25 Apr 1999, Jiva Goswami wrote: > > Or to broaden it, say John Wayne killed a horse with broken leg because it's "the Law of the West". I guess they would argue that the horse's quality of life was reduced below some pre-defined level > I sure couldn't say for sure, but a significant difference between an animal and a human is that a human can learn important spiritual lessons from his life's experience, while animals aren't thought of as having that facility. In the case of Mrgrari the hunter, Narada Muni recommended that he kill the animal than to let is suffer needlessly -- though that situation is not under the same set of circumstances that you are referring to. So it seems a human can make advancement under adverse situations, while an animal might appear to be simply buying time, more or less. Maybe if the animal is in agony with no immediate relief in sight? Apparently a horse with three legs will only starve to death in pain - their broken leg will not heal out on the open prairie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 1999 Report Share Posted April 26, 1999 > However, what do we > do when a favorite, elderly cow gets a nasty, compound fracture from a > groundhog hole? Besides get a dog to get rid of the ground hogs? This has been discussed on the Cow conference and the conclusion is that you don't do mercy killing of cows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 1999 Report Share Posted April 26, 1999 On 25 Apr 1999, Madhava Gosh wrote: > > However, what do we > > do when a favorite, elderly cow gets a nasty, compound fracture from a > > groundhog hole? Besides get a dog to get rid of the ground hogs? > > This has been discussed on the Cow conference and the conclusion is that you > don't do mercy killing of cows. OK, so what about my parakeet and my Grandma. Bolo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 1999 Report Share Posted April 26, 1999 "WWW: Jiva Goswami (Dasa) SDG (Gita Nagari - USA)" wrote: > [Text 2267224 from COM] > > On 25 Apr 1999, Madhava Gosh wrote: > > > > However, what do we > > > do when a favorite, elderly cow gets a nasty, compound fracture from a > > > groundhog hole? Besides get a dog to get rid of the ground hogs? > > > > This has been discussed on the Cow conference and the conclusion is that > you > > don't do mercy killing of cows. > > OK, so what about my parakeet and my Grandma. > > Bolo Satsvarupa: But Gandhi would say, "No, don't kill because..." Prabhupada: Gandhi's a rascal. Therefore he is failure. "In politics there is no violence" -- that is another rascaldom. Ramesvara: How has India improved by independence? What is the improvement? They are more godless than ever. Prabhupada: No, he... He... When the Hindus approached him that "You have got so much influence over the Muhammadans. Stop cow-killing," he replied, "How can I stop their cow-killing? It is their religion." Just see. He accepted something as religion which is killing. He's such a rascal. Hari-sauri: And he was nonviolent. Prabhupada: He was nonviolent. "In the name of religion, one can kill." This is his philosophy. He was a politician. That's all. And he indulged personally in mercy killing in his asrama. One calf was suffering, and he asked, "Kill him. He's very much suffering." Mercy killing. He was a rascal. But we don't say publicly, because he is very much... Sometimes we say. >>> Ref. VedaBase => Conversation During Massage -- January 23, 1977, Bhubaneswar Prabhupada: After all, you cannot protect. Why you give trouble at the time of death? You cannot protect; your foolish attempt will not help him. This is the same philosophy, that the animal is suffering, to kill him. Mercy of killing, what is called? Ramesvara: Mercy killing. Prabhupada: So this is nonsense. Mercy killing. Killing mercy. (laughs) Just see. The action is killing, and that is his mercy. This is their mercy. All contradictory. Killing by mercy? Mercy is killing? Hari-sauri: There's an example that's just going up to the courts now. There's one family, their daughter was being supported by one machine, so one day they went in early and pulled out the plugs. So now they are being taken to court. They stopped the machine because she'd been in a coma for so long, so they just pulled out the plugs and everything, the machine. So that's what they call mercy killing. They don't like the doctors just to keep them there uselessly. Ramesvara: But then they want to kill the old people. This mercy killing, they think that "An old man is suffering, so let us kill him." Pusta Krsna: They think if someone dies in their sleep, they are very lucky. Prabhupada: It is dangerous to die here. >>> Ref. VedaBase => Morning Walk -- July 11, 1976, New York Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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