Guest guest Posted April 28, 1999 Report Share Posted April 28, 1999 > > Dear Ugresa, (or anyone) > > Besides ginger, are there any other suggestions for nausea while pregnant? I > am expecting my 3rd child, and I suffer extremely hard nausea all day every > day for the first 3 months minimum. I take powdered ginger, which helps, but > anything to help more would be great. I cannot chew it raw, I can't stand to > do that, even crystallized, makes me gag. So, anything? > > You should be taking red raspberry leaves during pregnancy. it helps with nausea amongst other things. Some RR tea every day. Then when the birth is due, about a week before start with blue cohosh. 111 live home births at NV can't all be wrong. Also, I have this vague recollection that ginger is contraindicated during pregnancy. Seem to recall that from an article I read in Vegetarian Times which overall was glorifying ginger. There is a chance my memory is flawed on this, and couldn't find the article right off, but if it gags you to take it, trust the gag and stop taking it. Little later...... Just found a reference in "The Yoga of Herbs" (which someone on this board recommended and I did get) wherein they talk about 2 kinds of emmenagogues, one group of which they say many are contraindicatted during pregnancy. That group includes ginger, also angelica, asafoetida, cinnamon, cotton root, mugwort, myrrh, parsley, pennyroyal, safflower, tang kuei, turmeric, valerian. Which would account for the instruction from Srila Prabhupada that pregnant women should eat unspiced food, seeing as ginger , tumeric, and asafoetida are commonly used Hare Krsna spicings. I also think that hot peppers are considered irritating to the fetus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 1999 Report Share Posted April 28, 1999 > > Dear Ugresa, (or anyone) > > Besides ginger, are there any other suggestions for nausea while pregnant? I > am expecting my 3rd child, and I suffer extremely hard nausea all day every > day for the first 3 months minimum. I take powdered ginger, which helps, but > anything to help more would be great. I cannot chew it raw, I can't stand to > do that, even crystallized, makes me gag. So, anything? > > You should be taking red raspberry leaves during pregnancy. it helps with nausea amongst other things. Some RR tea every day. Then when the birth is due, about a week before start with blue cohosh. 111 live home births at NV can't all be wrong. Also, I have this vague recollection that ginger is contraindicated during pregnancy. Seem to recall that from an article I read in Vegetarian Times which overall was glorifying ginger. There is a chance my memory is flawed on this, and couldn't find the article right off, but if it gags you to take it, trust the gag and stop taking it. Little later...... Just found a reference in "The Yoga of Herbs" (which someone on this board recommended and I did get) wherein they talk about 2 kinds of emmenagogues, one group of which they say many are contraindicatted during pregnancy. That group includes ginger, also angelica, asafoetida, cinnamon, cotton root, mugwort, myrrh, parsley, pennyroyal, safflower, tang kuei, turmeric, valerian. Which would account for the instruction from Srila Prabhupada that pregnant women should eat unspiced food, seeing as ginger , tumeric, and asafoetida are commonly used Hare Krsna spicings. I also think that hot peppers are considered irritating to the fetus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 1999 Report Share Posted April 28, 1999 Re. nausea during pregnancy: I have no medical info, nor any scriptural backing for or against this, but a handful of my friends who were horribly nauseous during pregnancy, swear by the Japanese pickled plum that you can buy in health food stores. It was the only thing that worked for them and they tried virtually everything natural on the market. I've never heard of ginger prohibitions, but have heard people drinking flat ginger ale against pregnancy nausea. Maybe the prohibitions are worth looking into to see if they refer to any specific type or form of ginger. While it's very important to be careful with what we put into our bodies, we should probably also keep in mind that constant vomiting is not particularly healthy for anyone either. It keeps you from getting the nutrients you and the baby need, causes electrolyte imbalance and dehydrates you. If it becomes severe, please call your doctor. And on a more positive note: Congratulations on your pregnancy! Ys, Madhusudani dasi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 1999 Report Share Posted April 28, 1999 Re. nausea during pregnancy: I have no medical info, nor any scriptural backing for or against this, but a handful of my friends who were horribly nauseous during pregnancy, swear by the Japanese pickled plum that you can buy in health food stores. It was the only thing that worked for them and they tried virtually everything natural on the market. I've never heard of ginger prohibitions, but have heard people drinking flat ginger ale against pregnancy nausea. Maybe the prohibitions are worth looking into to see if they refer to any specific type or form of ginger. While it's very important to be careful with what we put into our bodies, we should probably also keep in mind that constant vomiting is not particularly healthy for anyone either. It keeps you from getting the nutrients you and the baby need, causes electrolyte imbalance and dehydrates you. If it becomes severe, please call your doctor. And on a more positive note: Congratulations on your pregnancy! Ys, Madhusudani dasi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 1999 Report Share Posted April 28, 1999 This point about contraindications is one that is much overused and mainly by people who know very little about herbs or by pharmaceutically trained individuals because one mg of a drug can kill you so they equate herbs in the same way. a little exageration there but you get the point. Herbs ar basically safe because they weork synergistiacally with the body. They are created by Krishna. I know this may be simplistic to devotees, but the fact is we act as if they are ladmines layin everywhere just waiting to kill us for trying herbs. It is not like that. You have to really be foolish took get actual harm from herbs. However during pregnancy there are some herbs to be avoided and those can be used many times in samll amounts. The main ones are pennyroyal and catnip and rue to mention a few. Goldenseal in large or prolonged doses is not recommended. However the herbs like blue cohosh, and blackcohosh . The blue cohosh is Caulophyllum thalactorides or something close to that and the balck cohosh is cimcicfuga racemosa. Both are used to prevent miscarriage. Yet both particularly black cohosh helps to promote easier childbirth. This seeming contradiction is solved when we understand that herbs work with the body to fulfill a need. Unlike drugs which are one dimensional. Drugs act arbritarily and cannot be expected to adjust their effect by the body's needs. That is because they are inorganic and not created by Krishna. That fact is important to remember. It is sort of like Asvattama being unable to withdraw his Bhramastra although a true Brahmana could. The same with herbs, Krisna's healing herbs can actually do the need be without causing harm and the action can be different according to the needs of the body. After all Krishna did create both body and herb. I know you will get so many alarmist saying I will be responsible for someone dying because I am promoting more liberal use of herbs, but at the present time the real dangers are in the insidous use of herbs and perservatives in our foods. I have been adminstring herbs for many years and by the Grace of Krishna I have never seen one ill effec, but have seen many good results. Ginger can be used in nausea from pregnancy in the form of tea, just in half cup doses of the tea to overcome the nausea. It is definitely not dangerous. Chamomile is also very good and actually probably would be better so as to avoid controversy. It also works very well. A little peppermint tea also works well. Rememer the herbs to avoid are the ones that are considered very active stimulants to cause contractions of the utereus including herbs like mandrake,poke,etc., herbs which are generally used in professional practice anyway. Anytime spotting occurs, you should stop whatever you are taking and simply take black haw, viburnum prunifolium. This should also be used for nasuea, then all the controversy would go away because it prevents miscarriage and stops morning sickness also. Perfect arrangement by Krishna. YS Dvibhuja Das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 1999 Report Share Posted April 28, 1999 This point about contraindications is one that is much overused and mainly by people who know very little about herbs or by pharmaceutically trained individuals because one mg of a drug can kill you so they equate herbs in the same way. a little exageration there but you get the point. Herbs ar basically safe because they weork synergistiacally with the body. They are created by Krishna. I know this may be simplistic to devotees, but the fact is we act as if they are ladmines layin everywhere just waiting to kill us for trying herbs. It is not like that. You have to really be foolish took get actual harm from herbs. However during pregnancy there are some herbs to be avoided and those can be used many times in samll amounts. The main ones are pennyroyal and catnip and rue to mention a few. Goldenseal in large or prolonged doses is not recommended. However the herbs like blue cohosh, and blackcohosh . The blue cohosh is Caulophyllum thalactorides or something close to that and the balck cohosh is cimcicfuga racemosa. Both are used to prevent miscarriage. Yet both particularly black cohosh helps to promote easier childbirth. This seeming contradiction is solved when we understand that herbs work with the body to fulfill a need. Unlike drugs which are one dimensional. Drugs act arbritarily and cannot be expected to adjust their effect by the body's needs. That is because they are inorganic and not created by Krishna. That fact is important to remember. It is sort of like Asvattama being unable to withdraw his Bhramastra although a true Brahmana could. The same with herbs, Krisna's healing herbs can actually do the need be without causing harm and the action can be different according to the needs of the body. After all Krishna did create both body and herb. I know you will get so many alarmist saying I will be responsible for someone dying because I am promoting more liberal use of herbs, but at the present time the real dangers are in the insidous use of herbs and perservatives in our foods. I have been adminstring herbs for many years and by the Grace of Krishna I have never seen one ill effec, but have seen many good results. Ginger can be used in nausea from pregnancy in the form of tea, just in half cup doses of the tea to overcome the nausea. It is definitely not dangerous. Chamomile is also very good and actually probably would be better so as to avoid controversy. It also works very well. A little peppermint tea also works well. Rememer the herbs to avoid are the ones that are considered very active stimulants to cause contractions of the utereus including herbs like mandrake,poke,etc., herbs which are generally used in professional practice anyway. Anytime spotting occurs, you should stop whatever you are taking and simply take black haw, viburnum prunifolium. This should also be used for nasuea, then all the controversy would go away because it prevents miscarriage and stops morning sickness also. Perfect arrangement by Krishna. YS Dvibhuja Das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 1999 Report Share Posted April 28, 1999 I don't have the book here, but I believe that it does caution against taking too much ginger during pregnancy. As has already been indicated, this is in line with Srila Prabhupada's advice that a pregnant mother should avoid food which is too spicy during pregnancy. your servant, Hare Krsna dasi "COM: Madhusudani Radha (dd) JPS (Mill Valley - USA)" wrote: > [Text 2275175 from COM] > > Re. nausea during pregnancy: > > I have no medical info, nor any scriptural backing for or against this, but > a handful of my friends who were horribly nauseous during pregnancy, swear > by the Japanese pickled plum that you can buy in health food stores. It was > the only thing that worked for them and they tried virtually everything > natural on the market. > > I've never heard of ginger prohibitions, but have heard people drinking > flat ginger ale against pregnancy nausea. Maybe the prohibitions are worth > looking into to see if they refer to any specific type or form of ginger. > > While it's very important to be careful with what we put into our bodies, > we should probably also keep in mind that constant vomiting is not > particularly healthy for anyone either. It keeps you from getting the > nutrients you and the baby need, causes electrolyte imbalance and > dehydrates you. If it becomes severe, please call your doctor. > > And on a more positive note: Congratulations on your pregnancy! > > Ys, > Madhusudani dasi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 1999 Report Share Posted April 28, 1999 I don't have the book here, but I believe that it does caution against taking too much ginger during pregnancy. As has already been indicated, this is in line with Srila Prabhupada's advice that a pregnant mother should avoid food which is too spicy during pregnancy. your servant, Hare Krsna dasi "COM: Madhusudani Radha (dd) JPS (Mill Valley - USA)" wrote: > [Text 2275175 from COM] > > Re. nausea during pregnancy: > > I have no medical info, nor any scriptural backing for or against this, but > a handful of my friends who were horribly nauseous during pregnancy, swear > by the Japanese pickled plum that you can buy in health food stores. It was > the only thing that worked for them and they tried virtually everything > natural on the market. > > I've never heard of ginger prohibitions, but have heard people drinking > flat ginger ale against pregnancy nausea. Maybe the prohibitions are worth > looking into to see if they refer to any specific type or form of ginger. > > While it's very important to be careful with what we put into our bodies, > we should probably also keep in mind that constant vomiting is not > particularly healthy for anyone either. It keeps you from getting the > nutrients you and the baby need, causes electrolyte imbalance and > dehydrates you. If it becomes severe, please call your doctor. > > And on a more positive note: Congratulations on your pregnancy! > > Ys, > Madhusudani dasi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 1999 Report Share Posted May 1, 1999 At 7:23 -0800 4/28/99, Darrell Martin wrote: >Unlike drugs which are one >dimensional. Drugs act arbritarily and cannot be expected to adjust their >effect by the body's needs. Well, that is probably true sometimes, but there are also many synthetic drugs that work in different ways and that can be used against different symptoms, depending on the body's needs. The body is really quite amazing that way, and this includes the brains used to create some of these substances. >Anytime spotting occurs, you should >stop whatever you are taking and simply take black haw, viburnum >prunifolium. .......and contact your health care provider. Spotting can be a sign of some problem that is completely unrelated to any herbs you might be taking. Ys, Madhusudani dasi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 1999 Report Share Posted May 1, 1999 At 7:23 -0800 4/28/99, Darrell Martin wrote: >Unlike drugs which are one >dimensional. Drugs act arbritarily and cannot be expected to adjust their >effect by the body's needs. Well, that is probably true sometimes, but there are also many synthetic drugs that work in different ways and that can be used against different symptoms, depending on the body's needs. The body is really quite amazing that way, and this includes the brains used to create some of these substances. >Anytime spotting occurs, you should >stop whatever you are taking and simply take black haw, viburnum >prunifolium. .......and contact your health care provider. Spotting can be a sign of some problem that is completely unrelated to any herbs you might be taking. Ys, Madhusudani dasi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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