Initiation (?!) the truth is our there

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As I remember Jatukarnya Prabhu wrote:

 

>I know that there are many who think that these 11 were never actually

>authorized to initiate by Srila Prabhupada, but that they drew that

>conclusion themseves. Srila Prabhupada said that he wanted a lot of his

>disciples to become gurus, but since it is written many places in Srila

>Prabhupada's books what should be the qualification of a guru, it can be

>questioned whether it is obvious whether he wanted the "original 11" to

>initiate own disciples immideately after his departure or not.

 

Hare Krishna, Jatu Prabhu and all others! I'm back in

cyberspace, after a couple of weeks in cybervoid. You have

touched in this discussion a very sensitive subject, which is

not 100% clear for me, and many others. What worries me is that

I see in many places quite duplitious behaviour. I will not call

the names, it's not so important. So the situation is like this.

One devotee, after been a bona-fide ISKCON guru, falls from his

position and loosing all social recognition. His books now

considered as deviating from bona-fide philosophy, ISKCON

authorities forbids listening his former lectures on tapes, on

the basis that since he falled down, he never was a pure

devotee, but cheater. Ok, let's say maybe it's true. Maybe he

never was a pure devotee, maybe he never preached in bona fide

way, maybe his former lectures are full of theological mistakes

and misconseptiones. Maybe. But then why none of his spiritual

brothers or any ISKCON authorities or gurus never did find it

before, but only now, after his falldown? In fact, they were

praising him as a pure devetee, as a bona-fide spiritual master,

and authorized preacher. Doesn't it show their spiritual

incompetence? Or they were all bona fide in that time, and

only yogamaya covered their eyes with a blindfold?

 

>I am no authority on this, and I wonder what others know about it. Maybe I

>get killed for even saying such a thing, but I would like to get this clear,

>if it is possible.

 

I guess I will stand in the same line with you at the time of

execution. Anyway, there two alternatives: Krishna smashes us

for offensive attitude toward his pure devotees, or nothing

happens.

 

your humble friend,

Oleg.

 

P.S. Where is Special Agent Sage, when he is so needed?