Initiation (?)

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> > Maybe what you is logical, but it certainly feels unfair that me or my

> > wife, who never had any position of authority in ISKCON, shall get parts

> > of that blame. I will stop expressing my own feelings on this issue

> > further.

>

> I don't see what it has to do with position of authority. The part of your

> "blame" is just the same as mine (I also never had any position).

>

> But whom do you want to blame for your own estimation (and

> conviction) that the person whom you asked for initiation was a

> bona fide guru? The GBC? Him? You are indeed, in this discussion,

> demonstrating the profile of a person who is quite capable for making own

> conclusions independently of ISCKON authority structure.

 

You are right that I do. I don't blame anyone in particular. I definately

have parts of the blame. Maybe it sounds like the essential thing for me is

to find the blame, but actually it is more to try to avoid similar

situations from occuring again.

 

I think this has been a combined fault from many sides, but I think a lot of

it came due to the zonal acarya-system, which more or less continued in our

zone until last summer, both due to us as disciples and to him as the

"acarya".

 

But I guess that also happened a lot due to the disciples' desire to have an

uttama-adikari as their guru. And for a lot of other reasons.

 

> It was not him who came to bow down infront of you to get you as

> his disciple, after all. Why is it unfair to propose that you

> also got your shares in the issue?

 

I should get my share, but what about my wife who took initiation when she

was 12? I don't think it is fair to say that a 12-year-old child should be

responsible for her own actions and decisions.

 

But when she looks back after all that has happened, I would not be

surprised if she will be happy that she did take initiation at 12... She has

avoided a lot of nonsense activities...

 

Ys

Jatu