Guest guest Posted May 13, 1999 Report Share Posted May 13, 1999 On 13 May 1999, Samba das wrote: > The problem is that we are so used to an institution that tries > to force falsehood down out throat, that we forget this. ISKCON cannot > legislate who we are to love and worship, (although I am not sure if all the leaders realise this yet.) > It has been quite some time since anyone dared to consider telling me who they thougth I should 'love and worship.' Maybe I have cultivated a reputation that now preceeds me. > Without surrender to such a person, you cant get anywhere. It is described that guru gives two things. Kripa (mercy) and Vanchana (cheating). If your guru tells you to do some service, and you say, 'well guru maharaja, I would like to do that, but I have this problem', so he says 'what do YOU want to do then', 'Oh gurumaharaj I want to do this thing and that thing'. So he will agree, 'Ok you do'. So that means you got cheated. > It is the guru's natural desire to see that his spiritual dependents are engaged in devotional activities. So while the guru wants to challenge his students, he also understands that they may not always be able to meet the challenge, and thus engages them accordingly. In other words, an idea of mindless surrender may not be the real goal of the guru/disciple relationship. Cultivating pure devotional service is not a mechanical act. Particularly within the context of our present ISKCON situation, I would propose that an idea of submission to another Vaisnava needs to be cultivated along with a practical sense of faith, love and trust. That others may or may not have a similar relationship which we may be cultivating with a particular sadhu does not need to be seen as a slight or an attempt to diminish the stature of those who we may hold in high esteem. ys, Sthita-dhi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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