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On 13 May 1999, Samba das wrote:

 

 

>

> This is where it gets interesting. The idea is not just to give you

> something to do. It is to give you something according to your psyco

> physical nature. Something that is good for your personal development

> according to guna and karma AND something that is good for the movement. Now

how can I know what is good for your guna and karma? I can try and guess (all

a Kanistha guru can do) but if I am self realised I KNOW what you need because

Krsna who is in your heart told me. So therfore I am in a position to give you

a PERFECT service one that is good for you, and good for the mission. I know

how much you can surrender, and I give you a servie accordingly.

>

 

 

I hate to be bluntly cynical, but it sounds to me that someone with this

perspective is more looking for a babysitter than a Krsna conscious spiritual

master. A KC leader, or any mature leader, wants to train followers to grow up

to learn how to take responsibility for their own actions.

 

We all recognize Srila Prabhupada as someone who is capable beyond reproach,

yet he didn't choose to remain physically present to eternally hold the hands

of his young followers. He ultimately trained them to think for themselves as

both his loyal disciples and servants of Krsna.

 

 

> If you accept whatever

> service he gives you, without any motivation, and he is a pure devotee, you

will get mercy, and make actual TANGIBLE spritual advancement.

>

 

Ultimately it is Krsna who accepts the service, the guru acts as a

representative. It is ultimately Krsna's system to train his prospective

bhaktas by this method. The guru has not potency beyond that.

 

 

>

> Why would they do all of that service if Krsna is not the goal. There is a

process for getting Krsna, it is simple, it is not ritvik philosophy, it is

simply that we have to get to know somebody who KNOWS Krsna, and He can give

Krsna to us.

>

> Simple.

 

Naturally, in ISKCON, we all share that kind of faith in Srila Prabhupada. I

am sure no one would ever want to discourage a devotee who feels connected to

Krsna through someone acting on the behalf of our founder/acarya.

 

ys,

 

Sthita-dhi

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