Guest guest Posted May 16, 1999 Report Share Posted May 16, 1999 Heard this tape with Srila Prabhupada yesterday, thought it was relevant to the subject of what a perfect guru is. Sorry for the bad quality transferring it to written text, the pointed lines are sanskritquotes. " Therefor you see in our deity-room there is picture of guru first of all. First of all your guru, then his guru then his guru and this four five generations because the spiritual knowledge is recieved through the parampara. I have recieved from my guru, you are recieving from your guru, my guru recieved from his guru, he has recieved from his guru, evam parampara praptam...... we cannot learn to become a perfect human being without accepting guru, then you remain a rascal.... If you want to learn the transcendental science you must approach a guru, guru principally the same, not that my guru and your guru will be different, if he is actually guru, then there is no difference between my guru and your guru. Just like a medical man, you consult one medical man I consult another that does not mean the medical man is different. They are depending on the same medical science. The guru means they follow the same principle, evam parampara praptam. The first guru is Krishna the Supreme Guru, He is the guru of Brahma even. Brahma is the first creature of this universe... So Krishna is the original Guru. Then Krishna spoke to the sungod......anyone if we follow Krishna then we are actually guru and if we do not follow Krishna but want to become Krishna, then you are a rascal. This is the test if you want to have a perfect guru, then you have to see whether he is speaking on behalf of Krishna or on his own behalf. If one speaks on his own, manifactures, he is not guru, he is a rascal, one who speaks on behalf of Krishna he is guru. Therefor guru is so worshipped.Krishna says in the Bhagavad Gita: Tad vidhi pranipatena.......jnani means tattva darsi, tattva means Krishna the absolute truth.... Tattva what is that tatva? The tattva is described in three fases....Tattva jnana is one. Brahmeti, Paramatmeti, Bhagavan iti sabdyati. Bhagavan is Krishna....So guru according to the capacity of the student the teachers talk about brahma then Paramatma then Bhagavan Krishna. Krishna is the ultimate knowledge of tattva jnana and one who teaches this tattva jnana he is Guru. Otherwise he is a rascal. Therefore the first indication is that if you want to become a real human being then you must aproach a real guru and learn from him, mold your life in that way, this is human civilisation. ...what is the duty of the guru? Samsara dava...... If you have got real guru and if you follow him then your life is successful, but if you have a socalled bogus guru without any knowledge of the sastra, then your life will be spoiled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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