Hearing from the Pure Devotee

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On 24 May 1999, Hare Krsna dasi wrote:

 

> Janesvara maintains that only an uttama adhikari can deliver his disciple,

 

 

It's not my idea, I heard it from someone else:

 

 

"Therefore a disciple should be careful to accept an uttama adhikari as a

spiritual master."

(Nectar of Instruction txt 5)

 

"...the conclusion is that a spiritual master who is one hundred percent Krsna

conscious is the bonafide spiritual master, for he can solve the problems of

life." Bhagavad-gita 2.8

 

 

"When one has attained the topmost position of maha-bhagavata (perfected

devotee), he is to be accepted as a guru and worshiped exactly like Hari, the

Personality of Godhead. Only such a person is eligible to occupy the post of

guru."

(Madhya 24.330)

 

Prabhupada: Try to understand. Don't go very speedily. A guru can become guru

when he's ordered by his guru. That's all. Otherwise nobody can become guru.

(Lec. 10/28/75)

 

"The GBC should all be the instructor gurus. I am in the initiator guru, and

you should be the instructor guru by teaching what I am teaching and doing

what I am doing. This is not a title, but you must actually come to this

platform. This I want."

(Letter Madhudvisa 8/4/75)

 

 

 

 

 

> therefore, everyone must take diksa initiation from Srila Prabhupada.

 

 

No. My position is that everyone does not have to take "diksa initiation" from

Srila Prabhupada but that they can take "diksa" from him if the meaning of

diksa is in accordance with his own words:

 

"Diksa actually means initiating a disciple with transcendental knowledge by

which he becomes freed from all material contamination. CC Mad. 4.111

 

"Initiation or no initiation, first thing is knowledge. break) ...knowledge.

Initiation is formality. Just like you go to a school for knowledge, and

admission is formality. That is not very important thing."

(Conv. 10/16/76)

 

 

This appears to be in accordance with Cakravarti Thakur's relationship with

Narattama das Thakur.

 

 

 

> That is

> the rtvik philosophy.

 

 

And the witchhunt continues.