ISKCONs temple projects first, daiva VAD society later, if at all...?

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Pancaratna Prabhu wrote on 4.06.99

 

>I find this thread to be very important. I would like to support Hare Krsna

>mataji's observations with a few points.

 

Pamho AgtSP

Thankyou for your interesting and informative comments to this, how you call

it "thread" in regard to the teoretical and applicable knowledge of VAD.

But can VAD and the apropriate knowledge how to apply it in our day to day

life in the larger society or within the bounderies of the ISKCON projects,

be considered a "thread"? A thread to whom? Our spiritual or material lifes,

the materialistic society at large, or maybe to the ISKCON society

established by Srila Prabhupada or maybe to theyr representatives?

 

Can this society still be considerd to be in touch with its founder acarya,

the visioneer of a trully evolutionary society based on varna and asrama

duties related to the Supreme and not merely on "money is the honey" or

"might is right" principles like they are propagated and practiced nowadays

in the materialistic society all over the world, including in some spiritual

societys? This corporate structure principles are indeed a thread to the

daiva varnasrama dharma principles envisioned by Srila Prabhupada, or

viceversa.

 

Is the premisse of this society which you are trying to represent,

"ISKCONs temple and farm projects first, devotee daiva VAD society later, if

at all...?" Then this discussions about practical and teoretical knowledge

of the VAD principles are indeed a great "thread" to the ISKCON society and

for those living whithin theyr bounderies.

 

But should it be like this? I dont think so. Only if one is still

dedicated to the old paradigm of preaching to the people that they must give

up everything for Krsna, including the way they earn theyr livelyhood, move

to the temple project owned by the Iskcon society and managed in a

comunitarian or comunistic way, and serve there Krsna acording to the

principle "Surrender and do the needful" for Krsna and for us all, who are

living within the bounderies of this project.

 

But that the communistic or comunitarian way of managing a society,

including this ISKCON society, is not going to work or satisfy all the needs

of the individuals of a comunity or nation, is a PROVEN FACT by now, and to

reach to this conclusion humanity had to pay a high price with extreme

suffering as well from the material point of view as also from the

spiritual.

That some responsible of the ISKCON society still hold on to this old

communistic or comunitarian ideals from the old hippy time or who knows from

where, is for me unimaginable.

 

But maybe I see this only so black because I,m comming from a former

communistic society, acording to the saying "Ones burned twice shy"

 

your servant,

Harsi das