Guest guest Posted June 9, 1999 Report Share Posted June 9, 1999 > > But constructive criticism does have its place, no? Certainly. But simply getting on the key-board in order to blast the spiritual masters in ISCKON for being just so-called "gurus," for misleading their disciples, for disobeying the orders of Srila Prabhupada, for being unqualified, and so on, I doubt one can call a "constructive criticism". If Janesvara think he's right in his judgments and if he got the proper motivation along it, then I would expect from him to try to rather approach those gurus privately, and speak to them as a godbrother to godbrother. But what does he do instead? I can just not bother if somebody has his personal opinion how they (the gurus) are unqualified, and to which extent they are unqualified (the range is wide). And I can go along with somebody's expressing his opinion of the kind in the public ("We are America, after all", as I heard Mr. Clinton saying so). But then it doesn't stop! It goes and goes and goes... year in year out.. ...this "constructive criticism." Personally, I haven't really step on Janesvara's way so long so he kept his "constructive criticism" basically in the domain of merely his opinion how they are unqualified. But then he came out with the very concrete "additional" accusation of spiritual masters disobeying Srila Prabhupada's order to become "varna gurus". He distinguishes between a spiritual master (one that teaches a "spirit stuff", in his words) and a "varna-guru" (one that teaches a varna). He is accusing ISCKON "gurus" (the quotation marks his) for assuming the position of being the teachers of a "spirit stuff" (for what they don't meet the required qualifications) instead of following the order of Prabhupada (sic!) to be the teachers of varnas. For the later another qualifications are required. All what he does to provide the "evidence" is to quote the conversation where Srila Prabhupada is telling to some of his senior disciples that varnasrama colleges should get established, and that there should be the teaching of varnas going on. Thus Janesvara das is misconstruing such an accusation that goes far beyond simply having an opinion how they are unqualified to be spiritual mastares. And comes not even close to some "constructive criticism". How do you expect, even theoretically, that this "constructive criticism" could possibly fructify in some positive realization? The attempt is to reform the spiritual masters in ISCKON, to make them realize how they are wrong in the vary base of their being designated as "spiritual masters". But got to be "varna-gurus". "My varna-guru is such and such, and I am a carpenter. And who is your varna-guru, prabhu? Ah... He is really good in shooting from a riffle on 200m, I heard. You got really an expert guru, prabhu. But he doesn't accept any disciples but ksatriyas anyway, naturally. He's not en expert in making the furniture, of course, our spiritual master Srila Prabhupada ordered them to divide themselves into varnas." ys mnd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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