Guest guest Posted June 20, 1999 Report Share Posted June 20, 1999 >Actually, Srila Prabhupada wanted the brahmanas in our society, including >the biggest leaders, including Ramesvara Maharaj (then head of the BBT ), a>nd Hamsaduta Maharaj, both GBC's, to go out and grow their own food, using >the bullocks, live very simply and thus set an example of ideal brahminical >culture, for the rest of devotees to follow, eventually for the world to >follow. He said this would "save the devotees, and save themselves." So you >are quite correct to say that cow protection and devotee protection are >interrelated. Brahmanas must teach by example, this is evident from Srila >Prabhupada's varnasrama talk, he gave in Vrindavan in 76,- that they must >learn to plow with the bulls and teach others...The consequences of not >doing this is that we fall down...as they did. YS, Niscala If they did this instead of controlling all the money and holding all the power then maybe a new goal would be realised and a new example set. If this is so, as you later confirm, then it might answer a lot of questions as to how Mayapur City could develop and other temple projects also. What is the example we want to set? I think some want one kind of example and others want another kind of example. Then maybe there should be different kinds of temples and projects. As has been reconfirmed that devotee welfare is directly related to cow welfare. Then if this idea was followed we would have a different set of problems on our plates to the ones we find today. >Yes. That is the subject of this conference. Funny we have zero >participation >from any GBC's on this conference. They must have found a BETTER social >system than the catur-varnyam mentioned by Someone in Bg? >Leaders should not remain "silent observers" for very long. Active >participants is the opposite of silent observers. Again, it is too much to expect the so few number of GBC's in the world to oversee properly the numbers of farms and cows that we have on a reasonable basis. A country in the world however small it may be does not rely on a ministry thousands of miles away to oversee its internal affairs. We have to decentralise this idea over the comming years and delegate power out to others. Too few hold too much power - and they have agreed to get out of management? Also this extensive cheap travel facility the world is enjoying right now may not always be available. The point that has been made about the enormous subject matter in this conference [cow]is relevant and so we should address these issues on a more local rather than global scale. If this were the case then the farm council's that Balabadra prabhu talks about would certainly make a difference here in England as we do not have anything like that here. The farm is overrun with dock weeds and there is talk of going back to using poison sprays after 25 years of farming to deal with the situation. This shows that there are severe problems here. Our GBC is very seldom with us and there is no guidance in this connection. Actually, Srila Prabhupada wanted the brahmanas in our society, including > the biggest leaders, including Ramesvara Maharaj (then head of the BBT ), > and Hamsaduta Maharaj, both GBC's, to go out and grow their own food, using > the bullocks, live very simply and thus set an example of ideal brahminical > culture, for the rest of devotees to follow, eventually for the world to > follow. He said this would "save the devotees, and save themselves." So you > are quite correct to say that cow protection and devotee protection are > interrelated. Brahmanas must teach by example, this is evident from Srila > Prabhupada's varnasrama talk, he gave in Vrindavan in 76,- that they must > learn to plow with the bulls and teach others...The consequences of not > doing this is that we fall down...as they did. YS, Niscala Again what is the goal. Do we want to expand our temples into big big temples, buying more and more buildings in cities and reliant on donations or do we want to expand our temples into Varnasrama communities where the money and power goes out of the hands of the present structure and into the hands of the people and families who make up the ISKCON we preached so hard to find originally. What is the goal of preaching and preaching and preaching and raising funds if the funds don't go towards helping the people we preached to a few years before who are thus going away? What is the point of raising more and more funds from Indians if there is no community based farm project to put the money into,to house the housholder asrama which is the bulk of our society. Or school to further educate our children (as they all have to go outside at 11 yrs). Where is the future? Maybe there is one, if there is I would like to hear about it. Your servant, Radha Krsna das. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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