Siksa guru as personal spiritual guide

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> First of all, as a matter of principle, unless you can supply personal

> experience or concrete instances for your above contentions, I must

> conclude you are a) in content, repeating hearsay and b) in purport,

> slandering vastly senior Vaisnavas.

 

Yes, certainly. It is well known to all of us how NM' Math is

open to ISCKON preachers and gurus, how he is welcoming them to

give siksa and diksa to his followers. No kidding.

 

And you just have said: "I don't know how I have caused you

to feel condescended upon ("Treat us as grown-ups, Prabhu.").

 

 

 

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> Secondly, I am not part of any group-think. I do not represent Narayan

> Maharaja nor any of his followers. Indeed, I never mentioned anyone by

> name (you brought NM up).

 

Yes, it was me who brought his name. To illustrate to you how not

only ISCKON leaders, but the leaders of other Maths and Vaisnava groups

are very cautions when it comes to opening the doors of the institutions

they are in charge to other preachers and gurus from other groups.

 

But see. Now I am slanderous and offender and a nonsense and everything.

But you are a fine gentlemen when getting on the case of ISCKON for

*exactly* the same mentioned policy as, for example, NM is marinating

also.

 

Otherwise, I don't know whom you represent. Not my problem anyway.

 

 

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> But I would caution you, since you have brought up Narayan Maharaja in an

> impertinent and reckless manner, that you are not dealing with any

> ordinary "Joe" to mock and target as an object for your foolish (remember,

> your dog example?) and cynical remarks.

 

No, I don't remember "my dog example". You seam to be on wrong tracks.

 

 

 

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> For someone as yourself who made the grave error of mistaking and

> accepting a NON bona fide guru for a spiritual mater,

 

Well, I'll be carrying my cross even with all the big black birds who

might happen to take the chance to dump themselves on it.

 

 

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> There are qualifications of both the *trustworthy* and for the *trusting*

> alike. I respectfully suggest that the "trusting" capacity within your

> self is defective or damaged due to previous impious samskaras and bad

> experiences in this lifetime. Similar to a corrupted hard-disk drive,

> let's say: don't blame the "via" medium [the program/sadhu); the problem

> lies within the computer/perceiver itself.

 

And I respectfully suggest that you kindly leave to me to decide

for myself whom I am to place my trust into. It's my cross to carry,

remember. Is this OK with you?

I am anyway not really interested in some "AL Gore" style of

"RIGHT NOW" campaign. Try somebody else (with all due respect,

humbleness, kindness, politeness, and all other remaining "jazz").

 

 

 

ys mnd