Siksa guru as personal spiritual guide

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> Just one question. Do you think Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu and His movement

> or "ISKCON" like HH Narayana Maharaja puts it, is the "property" of some

> religious organization?

 

Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu's movement is there for everybody, and

nobody can possibly capture it as one's "property". Mahaprabhu

wants that the Holy Name is being chanted in every town and

willage, that the whole world is flooded with the love of

Godhead. Is it happening yet? No. Why not? Because ISCKON

claims and keeps all the "copyrights" for distributing

the love of God?

 

In the words of NM, ISCKON is a dry place where everybody is

falling down . He indicates that really highly advanced and

serious Vaisnavas are somewhere else (he is the one among).

SO WHY DO THEY DEPEND on such dry ISCKON and its bad leaders?

 

Does it really make any sense to even hypothetically propose

how Vaisnavas of such caliber as Narayana Maharaja are blocked

from preaching Mahaprabhu's message to this World, by the

side of "possessive and fallen" ISCKON leaders? Please. Please.

 

I am not intending to be arrogant here, but what do you think?

Instead of talking bad about ISCKON and ISCKON leaders on that

mentioned class, did NM have a choice to speak to his audience

about love of God??

 

There are still some 4000000000 people there out. The "market"

is huuuuge. And free, entirely. And NM ought to know what to

do, he doesn't need the permission of the GBC to go out and spread

the Hare Krsna movement of Lord Mahaprabhu beyond any limit. Srila

Prabhupada did his part. ISCKON is doing its part. Let others

demonstrate what they are able to do. Is this a fair proposal?

Why blame ISCKON if they do not do it? Tell me.

 

 

 

> I tend to agree that Lord Caitanya is the original

> Founder of the Hare Krsna Movement and that Srila Prabhupada is one, also

> very important acarya, coming in the line of Lord Caitanya, who brought

> His movement in the western countrys. That is also what Srila Prabhupada

> tells us on many ocasions.

 

Pardon me, you tend to agree with whom? NM's claim is that Srila

Prabhupada is not the founder of *ISCKON*. I mean, do we really

have to go this "clearance" of who is the original founder of

Hare Krsna Movement, Srila Prabhupada or Lord Caitanya? I think we

don't. So long we are clear on who is the founder of ISCKON.

 

 

> ISKCON is one branch of the tree coming from

> Lord Caytanya, but is it the only autorized one?

 

I really don't understand why you are asking such a question.

 

 

> Why not cooperate with

> other branches too in order to please our Lord, what could be wrong with

> such a proposel?

 

Yes, why not.

 

Now, can you tell us on which particular way ISCKON is faulty

of not cooperating with other branches? And on which particular

way the other branches (like NM's Math, and Gaudiya Math in

general) are to be credited for cooperating with ISCKON?

 

I am not intending to a priori defend ISCKON here, but simply

to get a somewhat clear picture of what is it that is expected

from ISCKON, and what from "other branches" in term of cooperation.

A fair-play, so to say.

 

 

> I dont know this Narayana Maharaja but some things he is

> saying make sense to me, from the point of view of logic.

 

 

Which things that he is saying particularly makes sense to you?

Which things that he is saying particularly makes no sense to you?

 

One could discuss. If we would know what it is.

 

 

 

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