Guest guest Posted July 18, 1999 Report Share Posted July 18, 1999 On 18 Jul 1999, Sthita-dhi-muni Dasa wrote: > Further, I am wondering how devotees can publicly express such spiritual doubts about my good self now that I have publicly proclaimed my direct siksa disciplic relationship with Lord Brahma. I guess I need to whip up some of my own disciples who can then go around harassing my detractors as misquided infidels. > ys, > Sthita Second to a genuine admisssion of remorse for possibly offending a greeat soul, I guess a little humor is the most humility I will squeeze out of my respectable opponents, Mahanidhi and Sthita-dhi Muni Prabhus. In nay case, let me offer my unconditional apologies for any offenses I have commited in this discussion to Sthita-dhi Muni Prabhu, Mahanidhi Prabhu, or whomever else I may have mentioned by name. My primary intention was simply to defend the right to take bonafide *sadhu-sanga* irrespective of institutional (ie, "ecclesiastic") considerations. I am NOT advocating for everyone to surrender to Narayan Maharaja and accept him as the next acarya. This a straw-man argument. Although now that you mention the idea, I think it would clear about a lot of misunderstandings and offensive mentalities if devotees did go to hear from him if they could avail themselves of the opportunity. They might even find his association genuinely inspirational. In answer to any allegation that I am canvassing on the Maharaja's behalf, I would expect that Sthita-dhi would likewise inform when His Holiness Satsvarupa Maharaja was on the West coast so I could take the chance to gain his audience. Or Hrdayananda Maharaja, or whomever, etc. In closing, I hope that devotees feel that I have not offended Ravindra Svarupa Prabhu by my rather frank comments. The fact is that he has made a great blunder by publicizing what was originally a private letter. Prabhupada never publicly criticized Vivekananda (as a categorical judgment or dismissal), what to speak of another Vaisnava by name, so we should follow his example, if even we think we are right. Srila Prabhupada, for instance termed the split between Bhaktisiddhanta and Lalita Prasada as a "transcendental misunderstanding." In no uncertain terms, Lalita Prasada taught that the line of Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati was "disconnected" from the parampara, yet Prabhupada graciously termed it a "transcendental misunderstanding" and only mentioned this incident in a PRIVATE letter. I respecfully submit, however, that Ravindra Svarupa Prabhu has made a great transgression of Vaisnava etiquette (*maryada-vyatikrama*) against Narayan Maharaja by his inappropriate action. Even if everything he hypotheizes were true, this is still not the proper way or do it or phrase it. Note that I am pointing out a *particular BEHAVIOR*, I am not making a not a categorical judgment about his character. We all make mistakes and especially ISKCON managers, it seems. I don't envy ISKCON managers; I only wish them the best. The GBC would make their jobs infinitely less difficult if they simply took a lower profile (it sometimes appears that "the ultimate managerial authority" has gone to their heads) and "looked before they leaped" by gaining more information before they wrote their decisions (GBC resolutions) into stone. As I mentioned before, there is a dearth of "culture" and a lack of "good association" in ISKCON. We need fully matured and advanced Gaudiya Vaisnavas to resolve our enduring issues. This is what I meanthat ISKCON has everything to gain by aking lesssons from the Gaudiya Math. We might find out what it means to act like a gentleman, what to speak of the standard of what pure devotion really is. SB 3.4.26 "Although one may be well-versed in the transcendental science, one should be careful about the offense of maryada-vyatikrama, or impertinently surpassing a greater personality. Acording to scriptural injunction one should be very careful about transgressing the law of maryada-vyatikrama, because by doing so one loses his duration of life, his opulence, fame and piety and the blessings of all the world. To be well-versed in the transcendental science necessitates awareness of the techniques of transcendental science." "One should not be eager to become a spiritual master cheaply for the sake of profit and fame, but should become a spiritual master only for the service of the Lord. The Lord never tolerates the impertinence of maryada-vyatikrama. One should never pass over the honor due to an elerly spiritual master in the interests of one's own personal gain and fame. Impertinence on the part of the pseudo spiritual master is very risky to progressive spiritual realization. " dasanudasa Srila dasa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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