Guest guest Posted July 18, 1999 Report Share Posted July 18, 1999 This is a reply to a post Bhakti Vikas Swami made several weeks ago. I wrote a reply, but it seems it got lost before I sent it. I wanted to reply, so I rewrote and am sending now: Letter COM:2441258 (13 lines) [W1] Bhakti Vikasa Swami 01-Jul-99 13:39 Basu Ghosh (das) ACBSP (Baroda - IN) [15243] for DMW --------------------------- Here is a quote in which zrIla PrabhupAda recommends that devotees have one wife. It does not nullify texts recommmending polygamy, but should be borne in mind and understood in the context of such quotes. I haven't researched or deeply considered this, but it seems that best for an individual man's spiritual progress is if he sticks to one wife, but that it is a social necessity for capable men to accept more than one wife. "One should be satisfied with his married wife, for even a slight deviation will create havoc. A Krsna conscious grhastha should always remember this. He should always be satisfied with one wife and be peaceful simply by chanting the Hare Krsna mantra." ============ REF. SB 6.1.64 ppt. ------------------ Ameyatma's reply: I don't fully agree with Maharaj's understanding of this purport, and would like to respectfully offer my views. It must be kept in mind the context to which the above quote was pretaining to. The topic of discussion was of Ajamil's leaving his religiously married wife and talking off with a debauched prostitute. In that context, it is best if a man remains satisfied with his one wife. SP was not saying it in reference to polygamy. Polygamy was not at all raised anywhere in these texts or purports. It was not being refered to here at all. SP did not say one should remain satisfied with his one religiously married wife as opposed to taking 2 or more wives. NO, he was saying it is best to remain satisfied with one wife as opposed to leaving that wife and running off with a prostitute. Polygamy was simply not an issue or topic being discuss here at all. Here is the entire purport from which Maharaj extracted the quote: >>>>>> There are many instances throughout the world in which even a purified person, being attracted by a prostitute, spends all the money he has inherited. Prostitute hunting is so abominable that the desire for sex with a prostitute can ruin one’s character, destroy one’s exalted position and plunder all one’s money. Therefore illicit sex is strictly prohibited. One should be satisfied with his married wife, for even a slight deviation will create havoc. A Krsna conscious grhastha should always remember this. He should always be satisfied with one wife and be peaceful simply by chanting the Hare Krsna mantra. Otherwise at any moment he may fall down from his good position, as exemplified in the case of Ajämila. <<<<<< ------------------- SB 6.1.64 Ajamil was NOT a polygamist who religiously married and took good care of more than one wife very responsibly. That will not create havoc in society. What creates havoc is the fact that Ajamil left his religious wife and moved in with a degraded prostitute just for the purpose of illicit and unrestricted sex life. Where is polygamy meantioned? It isn't. Yet, also in SB there is a similar situation in the falacious story of King Puranjan. Note the following purport: >>>>>> One form of hunting is known as woman-hunting. A conditioned soul is never satisfied with one wife. Those whose senses are very much uncontrolled especially try to hunt for many women. King Puraïjana’s abandoning the company of his religiously married wife is representative of the conditioned soul’s attempt to hunt for many women for sense gratification. ... <<<<<<< -------------------------- SB 4.26.4 Purport Just as Ajamil left his religous married wife to seek out sense gratification with a prostitute, in this story King Puranjan also left his religuos married wife to go woman hunting and enjoy illicit sex with some debauched prostitute. Srila Prabhupad also says that a conditioned soul is never satisfied with one wife. But, was this refering to polygamy? No, the next line clarifies that it is in reference to hunting for many women, prostitutes, not offering to protect more than one wife religiuosly. I find justification for this view in Srila Prabhupad's purport to the second verse after this one, still discussing the same topic. There he says: >>>>>>> People have become so degraded in this age that on the one hand they restrict polygamy and on the other hand they hunt for women in so many ways. Many business concerns publicly advertise that topless girls are available in this club or in that shop. Thus women have become instruments of sense enjoyment in modern society. The Vedas enjoin, however, that if a man has the propensity to enjoy more than one wife—as is sometimes the propensity for men in the higher social order, such as the brähmanas, ksatriyas and vaishyas, and even sometimes the südras—he is allowed to marry more than one wife. Marriage means taking complete charge of a woman and living peacefully without debauchery. At the present moment, however, debauchery is unrestricted. Nonetheless, society makes a law that one should not marry more than one wife. This is typical of a demoniac society. <<<<<<<< -------------------------------SB 4.26.6 Purport Polygamy is marriage, and marriage means to take complete charge of the woman and to live peacefully without debauchery. This purport is evidence that when Srila Prabhupad says a man should be satisfied with one wife, in the context of the topic, the other side was to leave the wife and go woman hunting, that creates havoc in society. But, to take up polygamy or any religious married life, that is to live peacefully without debauchery. Again, in the reference to one wife, polygamy was not the other alternative being discusses, prostitute hunting was. When polygamy is refered to in the same context, it is favorably refered to. Then he explains that to prohibit a man from taking more than one wife, that is typical of a demoniac society. ys ameyatma das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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