Stop Sadhu-ninda

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> As far "the war that consumed the Gaudiya Math after the departure of

> Bhaktisiddhanta." I suppose we didn't have any wars in ISKCON over who

> would the next acarya? C'mon, in ISKCON we not only had beatings, but we

> had car bombings, vandalizing, shootings and killings as well. The

> movement splintered and fractured. Don't kid yourself anything less

> disastrous has transpired in ISKCON.

>

> The Zonal Acarya system disenfranchised most of the godbrothers worldwide

> (including Sweden) and left most of the grand-disciples spiritual orphans

> (inclduing your good self), practically destroying ISKCON in the process.

> We haven't seen the end of it yet either in the form of this upcoming

> class-action lawsuit against ISKCON. Don't think that this lawsuit is

> anything but the collective reaction to our past misdoings.

 

Good points, thank you for bringing this up.

 

Knowing what happened, hence we are ought to be a bit wiser now, and

we are very cautious not to repeat the same blunder.

 

So don't forget what happened whenever you come to us with your

"Acarya's self-evidency" song. Narayana Maharaja is NOT self-evident

acarya in ISCKON. You are completely right in your above observation,

Srila Prabhu -- it is the GBC to remain in charge in ISCKON, not some

"self-evident" acaryas from here or from there. Couldn't this be

a self-evident point?

 

 

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> Living in such a "glass house", you still have the gall to keep throwing

> stones at the Gaudiya Math? I say ISKCON has become the "Gaudiya Math"

> that Prabhupada criticized.

>

 

I have pointed the historical records of Gaudiya Math to us,

to be observed in order to not allow now the same scenario to happen

in ISCKON. You have responded with "See the zonal-acarya system in

ISCKON after Srila Prabhupada's departure". I accept your observation

as the right one, to be remembered and not forgotten.

 

And now you are accusing me for "throwing the stones at the Gaudiya

Math". You can well accuse Srila Prabhupada for the same, since

it was him who worn us repeatedly about what happened to GM.

I guess, it is Srila das to issue the allowance to refer to

Srila Prabhupada when it comes to these issues. The allowance

that he would never grant. Juts forget Srila Prabhupada.

 

And even then, I am guilty of "throwing stones on GM" just after

you have said to us all for ISCKON as presently broken down and

crippled institution. Congratulations, Srila prabhu.

 

 

> You keep citing the example of Gaudiya Math faults, what to speak of

> learning from the example of others, when are we going to learn from our

> own mistakes in ISKCON?

>

 

Too implicit point.

 

 

> Everything is not all black in ISKCON, to be sure. So many sincere

> devotees are there and in some places things are actually progressing. But

> if we are going to steadily improve and overcome the grave challenges that

> face our society, we have to be aware of where we have been going wrong.

> Otherwise, what kind of varnasrama society can we create?

 

You are kidding? "What kind of varnasrama society can we create?" ?

 

With Narayana Maharaj NO kind of varnasrama society. He is rasika

acarya. ISCKON mission is not his mission. He is the step above

ISCKON and ISCKON activities and all what Srila Prabhupada taught

and instructed us into.

 

But your phrases are noted in any case. The only question is what

you are hiding under. But that we must have noticed already, I

suppose.

 

 

 

 

- mnd