How to start varnasrama

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On 07 Aug 1999, Mahanidhi das wrote:

 

> Where did you get the idea that it is first the "varnasrama college"

> to be going through, before entering the temple life style of the

> devotional service? Is it Srila Prabhupada's, really?

 

 

Yes. If you don't know why comment out of arrogance. Quote Srila Prabhupada,

then someone might give your comments serious consideration. And I have not

said varnasrama college does not include sadhana activities. But the spiritual

practices are in accordance with the varna of the bhakta. There are certain

practices suited for brahmana, ksatriya, vaisya and sudra.

 

"Bhagavan: The children in the society will go to Gurukula and from there it

will be decided what their work will be?

Srila Prabhupada: Yes. First of all there should be instruction on spiritual

life ACCORDING TO HIS POSITION. Our spiritual life is the main thing we

should always remember but for management we have to make divisions."

 

"Devotee: Is the sudra supposed to take sannyasa also?

Srila Prabhupada: No. Those who are sudras, they should not be allowed to

take sannyasa only those who are qualified brahmanas will be allowed to take

sannyasa."

 

 

 

> Don't expect from the people joining a Hare Krsna temple to be

> doing it so out of their interest to get some occupational, varna

> training. Where are you coming from? (in my "motherland", one would

> say, "Have you dropped here from a Mars?").

 

 

 

Believe me, Prabhu, I KNOW this. Unfortunately it doesn't say much for the

Hare Krsna movement. We want that they are coming to find occupation according

to their varna and to chant Hare Krsna; that is the purpose. The Hare Krsna

movement has left out at least half of the equation. And the "fruits" are

apparent.

 

I don't think too many people are coming to the Kare Krsna temple anymore

because they realize the incredible hypocracy. Gurus having homosexual sex

with children, physical abuse, sexual abuse, etc. A lot of this crap in the

holiest dhama, Vrindavana. Great statement for a temple?

 

 

 

 

 

> Where are you getting your ideas from? Since when some years of

> book distribution (for those who can make it, self-obviously) are

> "incorrect, unnatural varna engagement"?

 

 

If it is not their guna karma, natural varna, they are much better engaged in

the plow department or trade or management. They will be happy and make

advancement. Do you think everyone should HAVE to go out on book distribution

or whatever they have to distribute?

 

Where is your reference to scripture or Srila Prabhupada for this?

 

"Srila Prabhupada: Some of you are preaching and some of you are cleansing the

temple. That does not mean that a sannyasi who is preaching, he is better

than that man who is cleansing.

The position of Vaisnava is the same. But for management one is cleansing,

one is seeing to the construction, one is going to preach, like that. That

should be there."