Guest guest Posted August 8, 1999 Report Share Posted August 8, 1999 On 7.8.99 Samba das wrote: > I dont know how things are now in the west, but there was certainly a lot > of psychological pressure put on devotees to perform to the leaders > desires. If I did not go on sankirtan I was considered heavily in Maya. No > one thought 'hey maybe this boy needs to be engaged in another occupation. One devotee wrote me ones the following interesting view: "The most important questions are: "How do you feel deep inside? In the deepest part of your consciousness, who is actually there? Who is that person within who is seeking something out of life? What qualities are actually there within you and what is it that you wish to express? What wants to come out from you? What real needs are there within you?" In other words, dive within the depths of your heart and uncover what has been motivating you life after life, for it is this which has been controlling your life's direction. Even if one is engaged in a spiritual path, such as in ISKCON, one will unconsciously and unknowingly integrate into his activities his deepest value structure and motivation, while adjusting his philosophy to accomodate that which he deeply believes. No one can avoid this unless one simply gives up his life and becomes a puppet who simply mimics the social norms. This is not attractive for anyone with intelligence and especially for someone with a heart. Sure we want to be tools in the hands of the Lord, but Krsna does not want us to be tools, he wants us to be intelligent and powerful persons who are self situated, happy, satisfied and capable of doing good in this world. As you get deeper into an understanding of what is actually there within you, you will understand why you have had troubles in this world. Trouble comes from trying to be what you are not. How can one be what he is not? One can make his life into an act, but this will never satisfy him. One can simply be what he is, and be comfortable with that unavoidable reality. If one understands that what he is is good, it becomes clear that being himself is the most satisfying thing possible. But few know what they are. First you have to find out what you are. When you do this, most likely you will come much closer to the core of your existence, for we are by nature spiritual beings and although we are in the material atmosphere we do not stop being spiritual beings just as a lawyer on vacation from his firm does not stop being a lawyer, rather he simply accepts another form of acting for some time. The actions of a spiritual being will manifest in the material world according to his desires to attain that which he values. He does not actually lose that spirituality if he is fixed in his identity. The problem arises when one is not fixed in one's identity and starts to accept another identity which has been imposed upon him. This cannot be done forcefully, but rather it is done when we cloak ourselves in these identities while thinking that this is for our benefit." > If you are constantly told how fallen you are because you > dont fit into the leaders scheme, it has an effect, especialy when one > understands the value of humility, this was often used > as a tool to > subjugate. "If we are indeed inherently one with the Lord, then we are intrinsically good, and perfect. We have to see that quality within by being as good as we can be, the best we can be, for each living entity is already a perfect part of the Supreme, and being the best you can be really means to be again that perfect and complete part of the Lord. The most important point to understand when addressing the question of being characterized as bad for not being 'perfect' is that due to the differences between living entities (as each is a unique part of the Lord), there will be things within one entity that are different than another, although all share the basic quality of being a spiritual being. It is the differences from the expressed or desired norm (or rather form or mold) that cause others to perceive that one is more perfect than another, when in fact they might be both perfect in their own way, or even that one which is perceived as perfect might be actually less perfect than the one perceived as less perfect, for the so-called perfect one may not be in touch with himself and thus the Lord as much as the so-called imperfect one who is in touch with himself and thus the Lord although he may not externally manifest the qualities expected of one who is to be praised, followed or obeyed. It is this difference which makes devotees feel that there is imperfection in those who do not follow the expected norms of society. Examining this point could lead to very interesting conclusions. For example, we have made certain devotees our ideal. Prabhupada is a case in point. Everyone wanted to imitate him in all respects for he was seen as the goal of development. Those who were different from him, especially his Godbrothers or disciples, what to speak of the so-called non-devotees, were seen as faulty and less than perfect due to our judging them according to our criteria that Prabhupada was the perfect model. Of course, there were other perfect models such as the Gosvamis and others, but we had no contact with them and have no real idea how they lived or spoke or felt in relation with others or in a social setting, therefore, since Prabhupada's life and words were so widely documented, we easily accept him as the role model. It became the fashion to see everyone in contrast to Prabhupada, and thus we had so many who did not live up to the mark. Krsna loves us as His parts. No matter what it is that we try to be, He will always love us for what we actually are -- His eternal part. If you love someone and they have some problems, you do not stop loving them, but rather, you try to help them resolve their problems. When you love a person, you love the essence of that person, his life force, his energy, his being, otherwise you are simply enamored with external things which are not actually that person but his possessions, which is quite material. A person who might externally be less than good, may be in his essence quite good. I firmly believe in the intrinsic goodness of all people, although some choose to be demons or similar to demons for some time while they stumble their way through existence falsely thinking that these qualities are their core-essence and manifesting these qualities will bring them to their greatest satisfaction. When one sees the essence in people, he can love all people and attempt to help them. When one sees only the bad qualities or that which is externally manifested, he cannot help others for he will not have the capacity to actually love them for what they really are. This is why ISKCON preachers are not very powerful for the people who are actually aware do not find the preaching based on what they really want out of life, but based on something which they could rightly conceive as exploitive (to get their money, possessions, service, or to have more followers, or statistics in a press information packet) Considering that such a state of causeless love, meaning that there are those who love others for their core-essence and not their external manifestations, is possible by persons on Earth, then why should it not certainly be supremely present in Krsna? After all, the faults are all a part of a show within the material energy, while the actor within remains a part of Krsna." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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