How to start varnasrama

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> > Of course you cannot have 'healthy' brahminical culture, unless the

> > brahmins

> are inependant. Which basicaly means that they are individualy in control

> of the means of production, in other words, land.

 

> I disagree, though these are significant issues. Brahmanas are independent

> because of their dependence on their relationship with Krsna. They do not

> feel obligated, or sold out, because of the strength of their personal

> spiritual relationship with God. This is not a sentimental experience.

> Austerity is their wealth, and their austerity is rooted in God

> consciousness.

 

I agree here, but with some reservations. For instance such a brahmin may

feel independant due to his relationship with Krsna, but that does not

necesarily mean he will be allowed to speak out. The ostracization and

practical expelling of Pradyumna prabhu, is a case in point in our own

history. If he was indpendantly situated on a piece of land in New Vrindavan

(for instance), he could not have been so easily removed, and he could still

have spoken out, in the truthful way he did, and continue to do so, thus

being a real pain to those opposed to the truth he was so rightly espousing.

 

So though they may not have interefered with his personal relationship with

Krsna, the lack of the proper controls, checks and balances that a

wholesome, varnasrama ordered society could give were missing, consequently

his message was stifled for years together, and great injustice was done.

All this would be needless if he were indpendant in every sense of the word.

 

YS