Guest guest Posted October 18, 1999 Report Share Posted October 18, 1999 Dear Premananda Gaura Prabhu Please accept my respectfull obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada! You wrote: > Demons are every were prabhu please im not trying to pisst off any body we > just have to be moore serious in spiritual life, I appreciate your preaching mood and I can see it comes from the heard. It,s certainly true that one has to become moore serious in spiritual life, whatever that whould mean in ones specific ashram situation, although I think thats not the main issue here. What do you think? > SP said a real friend is the one that makes you remember krsna out there > in the material world we are always forgetting krsna so who are our real > friends???the vaisnavas, Certainly, although I firmly believe that there are devotees of God also behind the "wall" of Iskcon from whom one could learn something, at least how one could lieve a moore balanced life in the service of the Supreme. To see things in terms of friends or enemys is not very much the true caracter of a real Vaisnava, isn,t it? > so ISKCON may have many problems, but there are many wonderfull souls > serving SP RADHA KRSNA and all of us by sacrifizing their lifes to the > preaching of the glories of GURU AND KRSNA, Thats certainly true, when Krsna is pleased everyone is satisfied and happy. > WHO I AM TO JUDGE???? please forgive me if I offend any one I don,t feel ofended by you, rather inspired to gain moore knowledge. One can learn from each other, although one may differ sometimes in ones understandigs of things. After all thats a discussion forum for brightening ones knowledge and learn from it. Thus try to avoid the pitfals of the past. > all I know is that my niece got help from the children of krsna > fondation, others kids too Thats nice to hear, may they become happy and peacefull. A good way to help corecting the falts of the past. > I love devotees,ISKCON ,prasadam,kirtan, and all the gift that SP gave > us, we have to protect, yes we have problems instead > of anger and revange mood, lets fix it as a family, and like SP together. I think we can all agree upon this or? Your servant Harsi das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 1999 Report Share Posted October 18, 1999 Dear Premananda Gaura Prabhu Please accept my respectfull obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada! You wrote: > Demons are every were prabhu please im not trying to pisst off any body we > just have to be moore serious in spiritual life, I appreciate your preaching mood and I can see it comes from the heard. It,s certainly true that one has to become moore serious in spiritual life, whatever that whould mean in ones specific ashram situation, although I think thats not the main issue here. What do you think? > SP said a real friend is the one that makes you remember krsna out there > in the material world we are always forgetting krsna so who are our real > friends???the vaisnavas, Certainly, although I firmly believe that there are devotees of God also behind the "wall" of Iskcon from whom one could learn something, at least how one could lieve a moore balanced life in the service of the Supreme. To see things in terms of friends or enemys is not very much the true caracter of a real Vaisnava, isn,t it? > so ISKCON may have many problems, but there are many wonderfull souls > serving SP RADHA KRSNA and all of us by sacrifizing their lifes to the > preaching of the glories of GURU AND KRSNA, Thats certainly true, when Krsna is pleased everyone is satisfied and happy. > WHO I AM TO JUDGE???? please forgive me if I offend any one I don,t feel ofended by you, rather inspired to gain moore knowledge. One can learn from each other, although one may differ sometimes in ones understandigs of things. After all thats a discussion forum for brightening ones knowledge and learn from it. Thus try to avoid the pitfals of the past. > all I know is that my niece got help from the children of krsna > fondation, others kids too Thats nice to hear, may they become happy and peacefull. A good way to help corecting the falts of the past. > I love devotees,ISKCON ,prasadam,kirtan, and all the gift that SP gave > us, we have to protect, yes we have problems instead > of anger and revange mood, lets fix it as a family, and like SP together. I think we can all agree upon this or? Your servant Harsi das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 1999 Report Share Posted October 18, 1999 For already some time I know about that hell called gurukula, but I didn't know what I could do in regard to that. Your letters again moved my feelings and I feel a deep inclination to write this letter. I have realized in my heart that if I keep being silent I am also guilty. If I am protecting the sinner I am also taking a part of his sin on my own back. I don't want that. It is enough to have my own sins from this and from previous lives and I want to clean them, not to add new ones. If we are keeping silence in regard to that, and if we are protecting the sinners, the sin becomes bigger and bigger. Not lesser but bigger because we are all becoming sinners on Srila Prabhupada's boat called ISKCON. If boat is overload it can end on the bottom of the ocean. Protecting sinners we are ruining Srila Prabhupada's ISKCON more than any court case, because we are losing confidence in the leaders of our society and others are losing confidence in our movement. What would we think about state and government who protect sinners? Would we like to be in that country, would we give our vote to that government? Of course, not. We do not eat meat, fish and eggs because it is violence. In the same time we are letting free abusers who any "normal society" are putting into prison. Acarya is teaching by example. What example are we giving? To whom are we preaching? They committed sin - they have to pay for that. Perhaps it sounds cruel but it is not my rule. It's Krishna's rule. If they do not pay it off in this life, they will pay for it in the next life. Is there any difference? Yes - in the meantime ISKCON can be ruined. You did it - you pay for it. After that they will be free and they can continue with their duties and services in ISKCON. And nobody can tell anything against them and against all of us. Because they paid for sin. I don't go in further detail why it happened, obviously it is karma for both sides and our lecture to learn from it. We have to trust our courts - they are also controlled by Krishna. Please, we have to finish with this sad story, we have to clean ISKCON boat from those sins and go on sailing in the lighter future. I am sorry if I offended someone. With this letter I am trying to get away of my little part of the sin and to do what I feel in my heart that I have to do. Hare Krishna. Your servant Dg dasi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 1999 Report Share Posted October 18, 1999 For already some time I know about that hell called gurukula, but I didn't know what I could do in regard to that. Your letters again moved my feelings and I feel a deep inclination to write this letter. I have realized in my heart that if I keep being silent I am also guilty. If I am protecting the sinner I am also taking a part of his sin on my own back. I don't want that. It is enough to have my own sins from this and from previous lives and I want to clean them, not to add new ones. If we are keeping silence in regard to that, and if we are protecting the sinners, the sin becomes bigger and bigger. Not lesser but bigger because we are all becoming sinners on Srila Prabhupada's boat called ISKCON. If boat is overload it can end on the bottom of the ocean. Protecting sinners we are ruining Srila Prabhupada's ISKCON more than any court case, because we are losing confidence in the leaders of our society and others are losing confidence in our movement. What would we think about state and government who protect sinners? Would we like to be in that country, would we give our vote to that government? Of course, not. We do not eat meat, fish and eggs because it is violence. In the same time we are letting free abusers who any "normal society" are putting into prison. Acarya is teaching by example. What example are we giving? To whom are we preaching? They committed sin - they have to pay for that. Perhaps it sounds cruel but it is not my rule. It's Krishna's rule. If they do not pay it off in this life, they will pay for it in the next life. Is there any difference? Yes - in the meantime ISKCON can be ruined. You did it - you pay for it. After that they will be free and they can continue with their duties and services in ISKCON. And nobody can tell anything against them and against all of us. Because they paid for sin. I don't go in further detail why it happened, obviously it is karma for both sides and our lecture to learn from it. We have to trust our courts - they are also controlled by Krishna. Please, we have to finish with this sad story, we have to clean ISKCON boat from those sins and go on sailing in the lighter future. I am sorry if I offended someone. With this letter I am trying to get away of my little part of the sin and to do what I feel in my heart that I have to do. Hare Krishna. Your servant Dg dasi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 1999 Report Share Posted October 18, 1999 > Please, we have to finish with this sad story, we have to clean ISKCON > boat from those sins and go on sailing in the lighter future. > > I am sorry if I offended someone. With this letter I am trying to get away > of my little part of the sin and to do what I feel in my heart that I have > to do. > > Hare Krishna. > Your servant Dg dasi Most wonderfull words of wisdom dearmost Dvaraka-gamana prabvi. Its always better and inspiring to let ones heart speak, free of all duplicity and fear. Krsna is in the heart and can manifest His will through those who lissen to ones heart voice. Your servant Harsi das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 1999 Report Share Posted October 18, 1999 > Please, we have to finish with this sad story, we have to clean ISKCON > boat from those sins and go on sailing in the lighter future. > > I am sorry if I offended someone. With this letter I am trying to get away > of my little part of the sin and to do what I feel in my heart that I have > to do. > > Hare Krishna. > Your servant Dg dasi Most wonderfull words of wisdom dearmost Dvaraka-gamana prabvi. Its always better and inspiring to let ones heart speak, free of all duplicity and fear. Krsna is in the heart and can manifest His will through those who lissen to ones heart voice. Your servant Harsi das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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