Guest guest Posted November 1, 1999 Report Share Posted November 1, 1999 > > We should not become slave of kaliyuga and help, directly or indirectly, > people like puranjana das (I have never seen him I guess) who has openly > said he wants to destroy ISKCON. Such people will try to find each and > every possibilty to destroy, divide ISKCON at any cost and in any name. What is amusing to me is to see how one Puranjana, who is himself basically a sick and powerless person, has become a big name, a threat and a danger to ISCKON... Krsna conscious mothers make their kids stop being nasty at once, by simply uttering Puranjana's name to them... How came? I belive he is in some extent a created "external enemy". For Russians, the Americans were such an external enemy. And for Americans, the "red communists" were that external enemy. The external enemy is needed, so that whenever some wrongdoing is going on within the society, the public attention and the emotions can be diverted to that external enemy: "Watch out, they again want to destroy us". And those who might still be too loud about the wrongdoings within the society, get pointed out as the helpers of the external enemy and thus quickly silenced down. There is nothing to fear from "people like Puranjana". If we are healthy. But there is all to fear if there is some dirt under the "carpet". > > And how the court case will help, btw? I am suprised how can some > intelligent people support that action! can they prove how, under the > circumstance, it will help? or just becuase noone helped them they go to > another party, at the risk of millions of dollars of ISKCON's money > collected over years by many hard working devotees? We have to think > wisely and understand that court cases are not the solution. Clearly, it is not a "solution". It is - a reaction. A bad reaction, I would say. Maybe the reactions have their purpose, after all. Being hit into head makes pain, and it is a bad thing that happens. Yes, what intelligent people would support such a thing like getting hit into head? Loosing millions of dollars is painful. I would dare to say, even more painful than loosing many hard working devotees that you have mentioned as collectors of millions. I knew the authority whose modus operandi was "Krsna will always send new people". He didn't care for devotees leaving due to some abuse or mistreatment. He cared for the money. Money got never to leave. Without money, no power, no control. Thus money has become more important than "hard working devotees". You may leave, no problem. Not the money earned by you. No compromise on that, if possible by any mean. By hook or crook. I've seen it. If money start leaving, maybe we'll start thinking. That if we allow something wrong going on, it might cost us millions of dollars on the end. Then we'll do something. Losing people over past couple of decades, along with almost entire so-called "second generation", seamed not to touch our hearts so much so the possibility of loosing dollars. - mnd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 1999 Report Share Posted November 2, 1999 Hare Krishna, Could someone please tell me who are the parties involved in this court case? Thanks. Your servant, Sri Rama das [srirama (AT) bbt (DOT) se], or [srirama (AT) reachme (DOT) net] [http://www.web-construct.net/creditcard.html] > > Bhadra.Balaram.JPS (AT) bbt (DOT) se [bhadra.Balaram.JPS (AT) bbt (DOT) se] > > > > These are practical steps that can be taken. > > As are attempts to contact abused children and give support. > > More could be done, but there is a limit where action taken goes out of > > the context of child abuse and simply rides on the back of this > > inflammatory issue to disturb as many ISKCON devotees with no > involvement > > in gurukula, or no involvement in child abuse in gurukula either as > > perpetrator or victim, through blanket propoganda and financial attack. > > a thoughtful text. > > We have to understand that all people who loudly speak against child abuse > are not necessarily interested in children welfare or justice or improving > ISKCON, or whatever. Some of them are simply working in the hands of > kaliyuga who wnats to cripple ISKCON. > > We should not become slave of kaliyuga and help, directly or indirectly, > people like puranjana das (I have never seen him I guess) who has openly > said he wants to destroy ISKCON. Such people will try to find > each and every > possibilty to destroy, divide ISKCON at any cost and in any name. > > We need to learn how to recognise our well wishers and ill wishers. We > should not get tempted of becoming famous over night by going publicly > aginst the GBC or by going to court. I also have complaints > against some of > our leaders' policies, at times I also feel that the leaders are > too slow or > too tolerent (at the cost of others), I even feel that some leaders are > corrupt, and so on but that doesn't constitute enough reasons to > support any > court action. If we want to do something noticeable in our life let it be > constructive. > > And how the court case will help, btw? I am suprised how can some > intelligent people support that action! can they prove how, under the > circumstance, it will help? or just becuase noone helped them they go to > another party, at the risk of millions of dollars of ISKCON's money > collected over years by many hard working devotees? We have to > think wisely > and understand that court cases are not the solution. > > ys, bb > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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