Guest guest Posted November 13, 1999 Report Share Posted November 13, 1999 Dear Pancha tattva All glories to Srila Prabhupada. My obeisances. Sometime ago you wrote back these lines and I could not answer you immediately. Also I wanted to do it. So, here, it is. (I am sending this also to VD.) > I thought I pretty well defined what I meant: accepting the authority of > the spiritual master, being singleminded in purpose. (That kind of > dedication to guru is often called "fanatical" by the nondevotees.) Still, > I accept your criticism - I guess that means I am less than fanatical, at > least by your definition.... That's good. We should always look for the best of a devotee. I only hope that, in your dedication, which you equate with being fanatical to the authority, you don't range me amongst the unfaithful devotees and other kinds. You bring to my memory some souvenirs. In 1983, because I did not want my wife to be initiated by Bhagavan, I had to leave France. I was labeled as a "demon". When I arrived in Canada, Gopal Krsna Mj. said that I was send by Krsna to help the yatra! After a while, he was deceived when my wife refused to be initiated by him either. The 80's were kind of hell for us, if I could say. For, anywhere we will go, my wife and me, we were more or less excluded from ISKCON family; we were not fanatical enough or singleminded. In Detroit, one of my old acquaintances chastised me because I told her my doubts about Bhavananda. In this years, the fanaticism was to its summon. Disciples were singleminded in purpose with their spiritual masters. The result was dramatic. At least for me, for I feel that it was different for you. I can clarify a little bit more my criticism, if you don't mind. Being fanatical can be beneficial as you defined it and a civilized person should respect such dedication. It is very personal. The problem we're having, particularly in religious movements, is when a fanatical devotee wants the others to be as fanatical as himself. That can become very annoying, to say the least. A preacher is heavy with someone who is ready, he COMPREMISES (is this the right word?) when his audience is not ready. Or he lies in some cases. Like a needle ... Can the question be put this way: should Krsna's understanding be brought to our level or shall we bring people to Krsna's level, so we can progress? Some will strictly side with either one of the propositions, but the answer lies between the two. And that requires a lot of knowledge of the material laws. Of course, if you are purely Krsna conscious it will be for the better. But one without the other is not sufficient to form a society. The material qualifications are not necessary you may argue, since Srila Prabhupada said about experts: there are so many of them out there, a spiritual leader should just use them. The problem is that we don't apply such advice. We want that everyone surrenders first, then his knowledge may be used by us. Like an onion, we will take off all the peels trying to find the essentiel, the spirituel. (But real devotees don't buy it. Wrong example.) What interested me really in your answer is the first sentence. I am always stroked with astonishment at the use of certain expressions, like in this case: 'being singleminded in purpose'. If you could define exactly what you want in life, for you, first, then for the community, then for the whole world, then we could, maybe, agree with your intention. Being singleminded is easier for a gostianandi, but it gets complicated for a preacher. Because it means to relate with so many individuals whose goals and visions are never completely the same than yours in their details. Your example of a singleminded person you have in mind is certainly Srila Prabhupada. But you perfectly know that he could not work with his godbrothers, or vice versa. He was too dedicated to his spt. master. However, he prevented us to reproduce the same pattern. Prabhupada is an exception. His vision was mainly otherworldly. He had the means. Trying to imitate him in that dimension brought us great difficulties. He foretold this, and for this reason he asked us to implement varnashrama dharma. Not the vedic copy, but a modern one. That's requires dedication, compassion and a lot of brain. We are in need of cooperation, not rejection; union, not division, openness and not sectarianism. This, you will get it if your philosophy focus a little bit more on the science of human psychology. To me it means getting into varnashrama; to be more human; to add practicality to our plans, not just be otherworldly. But devotees have decided otherwise. In BTG, the backbone of the movement, Satsvarupa Mj writes: 'Our editorial staff decided BTG would be relevant by focusing on this unique attempt to become otherworldly.' (Very interesting article called Otherworldliness, April 1999.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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