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> >I thought we were talking about the incident at the Krishna Balaram

> >Mandir in Vrindavan where Western ISKCON Matajis have demanded &

> >seemingly been awarded "equal rights" with the men.

>

> That's where it started. But KK changed the focus slightly when he

> started generalizing about all Indian couples vs. all western couples. I

> simply tried to show that there is more that one India and that such

> generalizations are not helpful. KK completely missed that point and

> instead objected very strongly to my mentioning that there was *anything*

> wrong with India. *Then* came the quote on women needing to be submissive

> to their husbands, which was kind of out of the blue.

>

> The Vrindavan incident was unfortunate, but I'm still not sure how it

> relates to the need for a wife to be submissive to her *husband*. Were

> there any husbands present who tried to stop their wives from getting

> darsana of the deities, and wives who disobeyed them?

>

> Marital issues is one thing, but I don't think I've ever seen a quote that

> says that every woman needs to be submissive to every man....?

>

> Ys,

> Madhusudani dasi

 

If women were eager to imbibe the "natural shyness" that Srila Prabhupada

wrote was highly desirable (paraphrase) for a woman... then why would there

be a "demand" from women for anything! :-)

 

But really... a shy women would want to be humble... and an intelligent man

would want to be humble too. That kind of attitude would solve many

problems...

 

But yes... in the material world it seems... even in Satya Yuga... that

there are always going to be irreligious persons who wish to violate the

"codes" of vedic morality... otherwise there wouldn't have been a fight

between the demons and the demigods, etc.

 

VaiŠava d€sanud€s,

 

B€su Ghosh D€s

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