Guest guest Posted December 17, 1999 Report Share Posted December 17, 1999 > > > > > > > Better to follow, not imitate, isn't it. Did Srila Prabhupada ever > instruct > > > any of his disciples to play soccer? > > > Did he ever instruct them not to? > > That is no answer to my question, prabhu--just a typical diversionary tactic, > I humbly submit. But I'll answer the question for you: He did not instruct his > disciples to play soccer. Beyond that, in so many ways he also instructed us > "not to." For, if we even *try* to follow even a *fraction* of the many direct > instructions which he *did* give us, then we barely have time to eat or sleep, > what to speak of wa Here, you owe one. This could be used to imply we shouldn't play soccer if you felt strongly to make such a case. Although we are part and parcel of God, mamaiväàço jéva-bhütaù, because we have cyuta, fallen down from our spiritual atmosphere... Just like spiritual atmosphere, Kåñëa’s friends, cowherd boys, they’re playing with Kåñëa. That is also playing. And here in this material world the boys they also play football play. But these two plays are different. One is spiritual and another is material. 9/14/76 VRNDAVAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 1999 Report Share Posted December 18, 1999 On 17 Dec 1999, Madhava Gosh wrote: > Here, you owe one. This could be used to imply we shouldn't play soccer if > you > felt strongly to make such a case. > > Although we are part and parcel of God, mamaiväàço jéva-bhütaù, because we > have cyuta, fallen down from our spiritual atmosphere... Just like spiritual > atmosphere, Kåñëa's friends, cowherd boys, they're playing with Kåñëa. That > is also playing. And here in this material world the boys they also play > football play. But these two plays are different. One is spiritual and > another is material. > 9/14/76 VRNDAVAN You punted? (But seriously, prabhu, I thank you for the quote.) We'll run it back for a quick...v v v < < Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 1999 Report Share Posted December 18, 1999 On 17 Dec 1999, Madhava Gosh wrote: > Here, you owe one. This could be used to imply we shouldn't play soccer if > you > felt strongly to make such a case. > > Although we are part and parcel of God, mamaiväàço jéva-bhütaù, because we > have cyuta, fallen down from our spiritual atmosphere... Just like spiritual > atmosphere, Kåñëa's friends, cowherd boys, they're playing with Kåñëa. That > is also playing. And here in this material world the boys they also play > football play. But these two plays are different. One is spiritual and > another is material. > 9/14/76 VRNDAVAN You punted? (But seriously, prabhu, I thank you for the quote.) We'll run it back for a quick...v v v < < Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 1999 Report Share Posted December 18, 1999 > > > Did he ever instruct them not to? > > That is no answer to my question, prabhu--just a typical diversionary > tactic, I humbly submit. But I'll answer the question for you: He did not > instruct his disciples to play soccer. Beyond that, in so many ways he > also instructed us "not to." For, if we even *try* to follow even a > *fraction* of the many direct instructions which he *did* give us, then we > barely have time to eat or sleep, what to speak of wa Your question is meant for zombies, that's the point. If a zombi attempts to do something on his own, then you surprise him with "have you ever been instructed to do so, my dear zombi?". And then a zombi gets caught up, starts scratching his head, not finding the "right" *answer*, spinning around aimlessly not knowing what really to do next... till the programer redirects him to somewhere that a zombi can be able to identifiy and recognize as an already given instruction what to do. How long we'll be insisting in creating a mental wracks through such similar odd zombi programs? - Mahanidhi das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 1999 Report Share Posted December 18, 1999 > > > Did he ever instruct them not to? > > That is no answer to my question, prabhu--just a typical diversionary > tactic, I humbly submit. But I'll answer the question for you: He did not > instruct his disciples to play soccer. Beyond that, in so many ways he > also instructed us "not to." For, if we even *try* to follow even a > *fraction* of the many direct instructions which he *did* give us, then we > barely have time to eat or sleep, what to speak of wa Your question is meant for zombies, that's the point. If a zombi attempts to do something on his own, then you surprise him with "have you ever been instructed to do so, my dear zombi?". And then a zombi gets caught up, starts scratching his head, not finding the "right" *answer*, spinning around aimlessly not knowing what really to do next... till the programer redirects him to somewhere that a zombi can be able to identifiy and recognize as an already given instruction what to do. How long we'll be insisting in creating a mental wracks through such similar odd zombi programs? - Mahanidhi das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 1999 Report Share Posted December 18, 1999 On 16 Dec 1999, Madhava Gosh wrote: > > > > > > In any event, I find it somewhat difficult to imagine our Vedic men-folk heros behaving like a pack of frustrated whiners. > > If you have the content, then form follows naturally. If you lack the > content, then it is necessary to whine about the necessity to follow form. > > Yep, but at least they are whining about something a noble as Vedic culture, however much unformed their content may be. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 1999 Report Share Posted December 18, 1999 On 16 Dec 1999, Madhava Gosh wrote: > > > > > > In any event, I find it somewhat difficult to imagine our Vedic men-folk heros behaving like a pack of frustrated whiners. > > If you have the content, then form follows naturally. If you lack the > content, then it is necessary to whine about the necessity to follow form. > > Yep, but at least they are whining about something a noble as Vedic culture, however much unformed their content may be. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 1999 Report Share Posted December 19, 1999 > > That is no answer to my question, prabhu--just a typical diversionary tactic, I humbly submit. But I'll answer the question for you: He did not instruct his disciples to play soccer. Beyond that, in so many ways he also instructed us "not to." For, if we even *try* to follow even a *fraction* of the many direct instructions which he *did* give us, then we barely have time to eat or sleep, what to speak of wa snore....... .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 1999 Report Share Posted December 19, 1999 > > That is no answer to my question, prabhu--just a typical diversionary tactic, I humbly submit. But I'll answer the question for you: He did not instruct his disciples to play soccer. Beyond that, in so many ways he also instructed us "not to." For, if we even *try* to follow even a *fraction* of the many direct instructions which he *did* give us, then we barely have time to eat or sleep, what to speak of wa snore....... .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 1999 Report Share Posted December 19, 1999 > > > > > If you have the content, then form follows naturally. If you lack the > > content, then it is necessary to whine about the necessity to follow form. > > > > > > Yep, but at least they are whining about something a noble as Vedic culture, > however much unformed their content may be. > Granted. Just a question of balance though. > . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 1999 Report Share Posted December 19, 1999 > > > > > If you have the content, then form follows naturally. If you lack the > > content, then it is necessary to whine about the necessity to follow form. > > > > > > Yep, but at least they are whining about something a noble as Vedic culture, > however much unformed their content may be. > Granted. Just a question of balance though. > . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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