Guest guest Posted December 4, 1999 Report Share Posted December 4, 1999 Sraddha dd. wrote on 4.12.99 > When we try to artificially introduce some kind of "vedic" role model we > end up with kind of Vrindavan case of men and women fighting in front of > the altar. There is nothing vedic about men standing in front and women > behind, there is nothing vedic about brahmacaris and women living together > in the same temple, there is nothing vedic about ISKCON. Those kind of > things didn't exist in the vedic times. There is nothing indian about men > standing in front and women standing behind, there is nothing indian about > brahmacaris and women living together in the same temple, there is nothing > indian about brahmacaris and women fighting in front of the altar. Such > things don't exist in India, except in ISKCON. Sometimes I really ask myself if Prabhupada wanted to introduce the culture of renunciation of material things why he didn,t start monasterys and many temples in India where real brahmacaris and sanyasis are residing are a kind of monasteries, where those who wanted to follow this path could do it without mixing with the oposite sex. The way he chose to organise things in ISKCON are more a kind of mixing two cultures to fit the needs of the individuels, indeed nothing vedic, or like Abhirama prabhu whould say "having a vedic perspective." But what is vedic anyway, the other day I was reading for example that the culture of the woman wearing saris was introduced by the muslims in India, so another conception of something being vedic gone. Ys, Harsi das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 1999 Report Share Posted December 4, 1999 Hare Krsna... Harsi prabhu, I'm wrong many times, yet I wonder if you'd take a second look at your statement > " But what is vedic anyway, the other day I was > reading for example that the culture of the woman wearing saris was > introduced by the muslims in India, so another conception of something being > vedic gone." Such a neat surgical amputation of a "seemingly Vedic custom", are you really sure about your information? Then Srimati Radharani and the asta-sakhi's of Goloka Vrndavana are under "Muslim influence", in that they wear sari's? Sari's aren't Vedic my dear nephew, they're the eternal dress of the spiritual realm..the Vedic culture means to move as far as possible to the full spiritual identity and life of the eternal soul, on the mundane plane. ...I suggest a little more hesitancy before making a flat statement like, "so another conception of something Vedic gone"...........as they say, "count to ten", then speak, something I'm still trying to perfect. your well wisher and uncle, Dina Sharana d. > > > Ys, > Harsi das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 1999 Report Share Posted December 4, 1999 > > " But what is vedic anyway, the other day I was > > reading for example that the culture of the woman wearing saris was > > introduced by the muslims in India, so another conception of something > > being vedic gone." > > Such a neat surgical amputation of a "seemingly Vedic custom", are you > really sure about your information? Then Srimati Radharani and the > asta-sakhi's of Goloka Vrndavana are under "Muslim influence", in that > they wear sari's? Sari's aren't Vedic my dear nephew, they're the eternal > dress of the spiritual realm..the Vedic culture means to move as far as > possible to the full spiritual identity and life of the eternal soul, on > the mundane plane. I was reading recently this statements by some devotees: > There is a lot of references recently about wearing sari. Sari is a muslim > invention. Hindus adopted it from them. and: > In traditional Indian paintings that I saw women dress consists of: choli, > skirt and a long transparent shawl covering (or not) the head and the rest > of the body. Does anybody know how such dress is called? I am wondering > wheather Draupadi was wearing that kind of dress or standard sari that we > all know... > And, what is the connection between covered head and chastity according to > the Vedic understanding? > ...I suggest a little more hesitancy before making a > > flat statement like, "so another conception of something Vedic > > gone"...........as they say, "count to ten", then speak, something I'm > > still trying to perfect. > > > > your well wisher and uncle, > > Dina Sharana d. Sorry for me being sometimes too provocative, I will follow your advise and try to improve my writing behaviours. Sincerely, yours Harsi das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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