Qualified women

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On 12 Dec 1999, Prsnigarbha HKS wrote:

 

> But what men forget is that being born in a superior position is not

> enough. Being born a brahmana does not make you one. You have

> to qualify yourself. So if you are born a man, you have to qualify

> yourself, to be superior to women.

>

> > So on the one hand we have Vaisnavis pleading for protection; on the

> > other, vying for power--a guaranteed lose-lose situation. They'll not get

> > protection by competing with their protectorates, because it "just ain't

> > no fun" for a man to try to protect a contrary-minded subordinate. And

> > they won't get power either, because the power of a woman is her shyness.

>

> A lousy excuse. No Vaisnavi is adverse to submissing herself to a

> qualified husband. Its the women nature to do that. But if the man

> need to say "I am superior", and beat his wife in the head to get

> the point through, then something is wrong. Either he married someone

> that is more qualified than him, and he cannot match up, or he is

> not qualifying himself to the point that he should be, according to

> his nature.

 

Well, those who want to follow that logic can do so, but as afollowers of

Srila Prabhupada perhaps it's better to follow *his* instructions; for example:

 

 

"...However great a woman may be, she must be ready to carry out her

husband's orders and please him in all circumstances. Then her life will be

successful." (SB 9.3.10P)

 

And that's only 2 sentences of a quite revolutionary purport.

 

We have free will. We can use it to try to follow the advice of the acaryas

or we can use it otherwise. Isn't it?

 

--gkd

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In a message dated 12/12/1999 11:20:26 AM Eastern Standard Time,

Guru-Krsna.HDG (AT) bbt (DOT) se writes:

 

> Well, those who want to follow that logic can do so, but as afollowers of

> Srila Prabhupada perhaps it's better to follow *his* instructions; for

> example:

>

>

> "...However great a woman may be, she must be ready to carry out her

> husband's orders and please him in all circumstances. Then her life will be

> successful." (SB 9.3.10P)

>

> And that's only 2 sentences of a quite revolutionary purport.

>

> We have free will. We can use it to try to follow the advice of the acaryas

> or we can use it otherwise. Isn't it?

>

> --gkd

>

>

 

My goodness, you guys just don't give up. Maybe you shouldn't worry so much

about whether the women are following Srila Prabhupada's instructions and

concentrate on your own field of endeavor. Have you reached perfection yet?

 

There must be some men in this community satisfied with their wives and their

wives service to themselves and Krsna or we would have no couples at all. And

the question remains, if those men are satisfied with their wives and the

wives satisfied with the husbands, why do you have a continuing problem with

it? Isn't the point of devotional service to attract Krsna? Isn't that a

personal growth issue.You seem to spend your time pointing out to Krsna (as

if he can't see) and the assembled devotees the flaws in the service of

others and why it should be considered unsatisfactory.

 

This was rarely, if ever Srila Prabhpada's mood. Can you actually be

considering yourself on His platform with the potency to correct without

discouraging? It appears more like petty bickering among children rather

than leadership. The childhood adage still holds true....when you point out

someone elses flaws, three fingers are point back at you. yhs, Kanti dasi