Guest guest Posted December 13, 1999 Report Share Posted December 13, 1999 At 02:22 PM 12/12/99 -0800, COM: Madhusudani Radha (dd) JPS (Mill Valley - USA) wrote: >[Text 2851814 from COM] > >Guru-Krsna wrote: > >>So we better change Srila Prabhupada's books--the lawbooks for the next 9.5K >>years, those purports which were "dictated by Krsna," every word of which was >>chosen carefully because "It is document." Otherwise, lusty men may seek >>multiple wives. > >No we don't. Not at all. We just have to follow Prabhupada and >insist that each man takes *one* wife, following both the examples of >Srila Prabhupada himself, Lord Rama, many other exalted Vaisnavas and >of course Prabhupada's instructions to us. Very simple. OK, Mataji. You can insist. But also following guru-sadhu-sastra, I repeat that *for society at large* polygamy is a means to curb--not exacerbate--lust in society. So you can insist that each man takes *one* wife, and I will insist that the leftover women will be exploited by lusty married men. So better they be protected as co-wives than exploited as playthings. Why disagree? >You seem obsessed with trying to figure out how to control women who >are not even your wives. Thanks for the free diagnosis, Dr. Ekstand. But I don't believe in cyber-telepsychoanalysis >As many devotees have already pointed out >previously on these forums, it's safer to be concerned about our own >spiritual lives, rather than trying to force, dictate or shame other >devotees into maintaining a standard that we can't even uphold >ourselves. Gee willickers, Ma, give this poor son a break, will ya? Why the same tired old endless loop? You don't have to agree or like what I say. But the unfounded criticisms are useless for all intents and purposes. >Secondly, other participants in these discussions have >pointed out the relationship between men who have failed to protect >their wives and those wives subsequently having to stand up for >themselves. That's called a false conclusion. Others may "say" until the cows come home, but saying "don't make it so." >Third, both you and other GHQers have admitted that >Prabhupada was lenient with his disciples who were not born into >ISKCON. Finally, you also stated in several papers that we need to >start striving for a higher standard among our chidlren. WOW! We actually agree there. >Given these observations and based on your own experiences in a >failed marriage, how do you suggest we train our young *boys* so that >they can adequately protect their future wives thus preventing them >from having to seek protection elsewhere and/or from having to stand >up for themselves? That could be a very interesting discussion with >immediate applicability for those of us raising sons. Definitely. It is *much needed* training, Mataji. But it need not be a wonder what to do or how to do it. SP has already given us the framework called gurukula. But now we want to break that framework and replace it with day schools, charter schools, public schools, etc. Granted, the framework became infested with termites and was therefore practically destroyed, but it is that same framework which we must restore. Replacing it with another framework will not necessarily result in well trained young men. Why should it? >>do you think that lusty men with only *1* wife haven't yet realized >>that there is *no shortage* >>of unmarried lusty women with whom to sport in extramarrital shenanigans? > >Who knows what's going on in the minds of dirty old men? Maybe you >can get some of them to tell you directly, so we don't have to >speculate? Personally I'm not interested. I can think of about >50,000 more interesting and spiritually beneficial things on which to >meditate. And so can most of us. The question was raised to jog the minds of those who are stuck in the ditch, revving their motors and spinning their wheels, which are screeching sounds like "Polygamy is just an excuse for lusty men to enjoy." No, lusty men are *already* enjoying unprotected women. Insisting that every man marries only 1 woman will not stop lusty married men from going to lusty unprotected women. Just believe it! --gkd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 1999 Report Share Posted December 13, 1999 Hare Krsna, I am pretty sure that this is not written down specifically, but i do not recall that Srila Prabhupada ever encouraged us to do anything illegal. Having multiple wives is illegal in at least 49 states in the US. As far as i am concerned, multiple wives is illegal and therefore a moot point. These guys must have something better to concern themselves with than the structure of other persons sexlife......like going back to Godhead? YS JayaLalita dd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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