Lust and Love

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> Regarding the "who is lustier" debate, I would like to remind that "lust"

> is not only refering to gross sexual desire or conduct, but to all of its

> variable aspects as well. Therefore, because ladies do not appear to be

> overtly interested in sexul acts does not necesarrily imply a lack of

> lust.

>

> The moderator and many partipants have noted that better we remember and

> speak of Krishna...so why are we going on with this topic anyway?

 

Just an interesting opinion:

 

"Lust is something which is based on exploitation. Since we are speaking

about the so-called love between people, which in this question is manifest

sometimes as lust, we can define lust as that which is meant simply for the

satisfaction of that lust. The reason I said it like that is because one

cannot actually say it is meant for satisfying the senses, for the

satisfying of lust does not necessarily mean that one is satisfying one

senses.

 

As far as I can see, when one tries to satisfy his lust he is simply

following the urges of lust for the satisfaction of that lust alone. It is

something which is very selfish, self centered, unconcerned with the needs

or desires of others, and even counterproductive to one's own requirements

whereby one becomes blind to the often unpleasant consequences of actions

performed to satisfy that lust.

 

Love, on the other hand, is something which is actually spiritual. That

energy of love comes directly from Sri Sri Radha and Krsna and all love

which is experienced anywhere in existence is actually a part of that love

which comes from the Supreme. This means that when you feel the energy

of love you are actually contacting that love of Radha and Krsna. It is

important to know here that when we speak of love, we are speaking of that

spiritual love which is the essence of love. It is important to note that

people do not understand the actual meaning of the word love and therefore

often mistake it for some other quality which it is not.

 

Love is love and there is no other quality which is love. When one

actually experiences love, one is actually experiencing spiritual love. I

know that certain classes of spiritualists say that there is no possibility

of experiencing spiritual love, or in other words, real love, in this

material world. I think that is a mistake. When one is a spiritual living

entity, who possesses spiritual consciousness, he most certainly has the

capacity to connect periodically to his spiritual energy. Since we are by

nature not different from the Supreme in our quality, we have within our

hearts that energy of spiritual love. Since that energy is within our hearts

we can experience it under certain advantageous circumstances. When one is

very much spiritually advanced he can experience that spiritual love

much more than one who is not so spiritually advanced.

 

However, anyone who can open the channel within his heart and thus

contact his spiritual quality can experience with certain persons and under

certain circumstances actual love. There is no need to debate at this point

how one can open that channel neither if it is possible for a non-devotee

to experience the spiritual energy for in fact all consciousness is

spiritual. Simply one must see how the consciousness is directed.

 

In brief, love is the supreme energy personified by Radha and Krsna

emanating from Them and which is the very essence of us, Their spiritual

parts. When, due to some stimulation which attracts and indeed captures our

energy, we have the possibility to come in contact with our own reservoir of

love emanating from our own hearts. It is at this point when the feel that

connection to the spiritual love that the union between the energy of

persons may take place."