The so-called Sports (including soccer) are GAMBLING

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"COM: Madhusudani Radha (dd) JPS (Mill Valley - USA)" wrote:

 

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> >from the very beginning, they are trained to refrain from the following four

> >principles of degradation: 1) sex life outside marriage, 2) intoxication, 3)

> >meat eating, and 4) gambling and IDLE SPORTS*. (Letter to: Archbishop of

> >Canterbury, Los Angeles 1969)

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> Thanks, now it's clear.

>

> Madhava Gosh Prabhu,

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> 1) no betting on any teams

> 2) keep those boys moving - don't let them be idle.

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> OK?

>

> Ys,

> Madhusudani dasi

 

I believe that an example of idle sport would be debating. as the siksa guru

of

the GHQ, Kirtanananda, so amply provided us with an example. He was on the

Columbia University debating team, so had good training in the sport, and has

set a high standard for use of debating techniques, that has been well

emulated

by his followers. They (GHQers) have really taken it to a high level, and are

excellent debators. They are so good at it, that, in my opinion, they are

all masterdebators.

 

Hence, for myself, I prefer to stick to the active sport of soccer, and

reserve my mental energy for positive solutions to real problems that are

useable

in real time. Building theoretical constructs of idealized societies in

cyberspace is, IMHO, simply an idle sport. I believe the Spanish have some

phrase for it that translates roughly as "Building castles in the clouds".

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> In the above quotes from Srila Prabhupada we see that Prabhupada mentions

> sports always with gambling as a breaking of the regulative principles and

> in the last quote he confirms that actually the so-called sports are a

> form of gambling.

 

Sure. I always thought so, whenever HH Jayapataka Maharaja

would come and get all the interesting devotes into a swimming

pool to play a handball there, that he and everybody else were

gambling and breaking the rehulative principles.

 

The people there "out" think we are zombies. Don't know why. I

guess they simply don't get it why having young (and less young)

people exercising some kind of a sport is classified by the memebers

of Hare Krsna sect to be amongst sinful activities. I guess we

ourselves got no idea on that either. To bloop or not to bloop, the

question is now... I mean, to kick a ball or not to kick a ball..

 

 

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> Now onw can argue that soccer is not a so-called sport but a real sport.

> But according to the other quote posted earlier Prabhupada says soccer is

> a materialistic sport and we can safely conclude that materialistic sports

> are so-called sports whereas sporting with Krsna is the real sport.

 

Well, we can safely conclude that we are not sporting with Krsna

at the moment, but with our common sense and clear reasoning.

 

 

 

- Mahanidhi das

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> >

> >from the very beginning, they are trained to refrain from the following

> >four principles of degradation: 1) sex life outside marriage, 2)

> >intoxication, 3) meat eating, and 4) gambling and IDLE SPORTS*. (Letter

> >to: Archbishop of Canterbury, Los Angeles 1969)

>

>

> Thanks, now it's clear.

>

> Madhava Gosh Prabhu,

>

> 1) no betting on any teams

> 2) keep those boys moving - don't let them be idle.

>

 

The most interesting is even the first one:

 

1) sex life outside marriage

 

HEY! Were did that one come from?

 

Ys. Sraddha dd

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At 23:50 +0100 12/18/1999, COM: Sraddha (dd) HKS (Gothenburg - S) wrote:

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>

> The most interesting is even the first one:

>

> 1) sex life outside marriage

>

> HEY! Were did that one come from?

>

> Ys. Sraddha dd

 

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> from the very beginning, they are trained to refrain from the following

> four principles of degradation: 1) sex life outside marriage, 2)

> intoxication, 3) meat eating, and 4) gambling and IDLE SPORTS*. (Letter

> to: Archbishop of Canterbury, Los Angeles 1969)

 

I'm assuming this letter is in folio. Does anyone have the complete letter?

 

Ys,

Madhusudani dasi