Guest guest Posted November 27, 1999 Report Share Posted November 27, 1999 On 26 Nov 1999, Madhava Gosh wrote: > > > > My snail mail address is: > > > > Acarya dasa > > RR 1 Box 835E > > Port Royal, PA 17082 > > > > Thank you for your time and consideration. I hope this meets you in good > > health and I beg to remain, > > > > Your servant, > > Acarya dasa > > Couldn't we communicate on the Practical Varnashram conference? Then others > could benefit from the exchange. > > He's got no phone, no electricity (might have one panel and a battery or two) He's using a borrowed COM account. He COULD go to the Temple and use the public PC, but he would need convincing. YS JvGs ERROR Quoted lines exceeds half the lines of your message. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 1999 Report Share Posted November 27, 1999 > > He's using a borrowed COM account. He COULD go to the Temple and use the > public PC, but he would need convincing. > > YS JvGs > > Yes, the truly self dependent are at a disadvantage in the competitive modern world. Do he have a good enough relationship with the computer guy that the computer guy would print out messages for him? And then type in responses or questions? I know that the farm communities are mostly suburbanites in control, but it would be a way for some suburbanite to somewhat assist in the eventual goal. For real self reliance to occur, they will have to be quite a support system for the foreseeable future, as funny as that may sound. Maybe someone else would volunteer to be his go between. Print out everything practical and mail it to him once a week? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 1999 Report Share Posted December 7, 1999 "COM: Madhusudani Radha (dd) JPS (Mill Valley - USA)" wrote: > [Text 2836175 from COM] > > >Better to send your wife to the temple to trade some tomatoes for burfy? > > Send the wife? All unprotected? How un-vedic! Why not leave the > wife at home, well taken care of, and have the husband go and get the > burfy? Or of course, you could also send her there carried on a > pallequin. The possibilities are limitless. > > Ys, > Madhusudani dasi Naturally, the 25% of produce I pay to local land trustee will be paying for safe roads. Other problem, uncontrolled tongue of husband may be unsafe for burfy on way home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 1999 Report Share Posted December 9, 1999 > You needed a tipi guru. i know people who have lived very comfortably in > tipis, but it is a more complicated art form of life, knowing how to > manipulate the smoke flaps, inner liner etc. Can you reccomend anyone? (nah, only kidding). Actualy it did cross my mind to build one right now, as I need to move onto our land as soon as possible, we have already had one theft up there (it was only a small plastic bin, they emptied the rotting veggie scraps and made off with the bin, but that was all there was anyway). But there is no way a tipi would survive a cyclone. Actualy the problem I had with the smoke was more to do with damp wood. I remember at other times with a good blaze going, and a canopy (I forget the name) stretched between the anchor rope and down behind the lining, it was really pleasant. Fantastic dwellings tipis. I was trying to figure out why the Indians had such a short lifespan (whitemen with rifles not withstanding). Really its true if someone needs to move into the great outdoors in a hurry, with a minimum of cost, but a maximum of comfort, a tipi is a really good choice. I might make what they call a 'bender' in Ireland, which might be similar to a wikkiup in Red Indian lore. Its basicly a dome or tunnel like structure made from willow or hazel or other flexible saplings, of about 15 to 20 feet long, which are stuck into the ground, and wrapped around each other to creat a kind of skeletal form (you can make a sweat lodge in the same way, but smaller). Lay a tarpaulin over it, and install a small stove made from a 'can' or milk churn or something, and you have an instant cosy home. I used to drape a carpet or fabric 'hanging' over the poles before putting the canvas, to provide some colourful 'wallpaper'. These structures are much more stable than a tipi, smokeflaps would be useless in a cyclone, and would have to be closed. The main drawback with a bender is that it looks like a huge ugly slug, compared to the elegance of a well made lodge, but beauty isn't everything! I am still trying to find an old bus which would be the easiest solution for now. Lets see. > I remember one Deity kitchen in New Vrindaban that has terrible to work > in because of the smoke in the woodcookstoves. To this day, they still > cook with gas, thanks to that experience, but when I got my wood > cookstove, and studied the correct installation, I could immediately see > what the problem and been, and that it was correctable. Yes a vent pipe from outside near the air feed of the stove can be good, and also to make sure that the chimney or flue is long enough. We had a lot of stoves in Ireland. YS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 1999 Report Share Posted December 16, 1999 Haribol prabhus, PAMHO AGTSP Being off line for a while and there's a whole pletra of stuff to catch up on. Seen the mention of 'benders' and stoves. Thought you might like to know about the gas cyclinder type which Aniruddha made for us last year. Actually a few devotees made them. We had single 'Calor' yellow, and double ones which had ovens in them. Very simple to do, one day's work with a welder if you've got a cyclinder. The rounded top is cut out for a door. The 'stove' lies horizontally and then you make two 'pin flap' hinges for the door. He mounted ours on feet, and at the time we were in a mobile. There's great heat from them. Also Bh. John used one of the larger red cylinders and put a small one in the middle of it, and made an oven model. We ran flue pipes from the back of them vertically, and ours had a steel flat plate welded on top which you could put a pot on. So you can heat water or do some cooking on it as well. I suppose anything like a gas cylinder would work, and I suppose in a 'bender' situation, even a mini-stove could be made by using a smaller cylinder. The reason the gas bottles are good is because they're readily available here and very heavy construction therefore durable. We're in our cottage now, but we use the stove in the mobile still when Gaura comes home to visit. He just returned briefly before the marathon having spent a 'year in the sun' being only in Europe for the good summer weather and the rest of the time in India and Africa respectively. He found that it was great as it was his only source of heat in there. So I'm supposing that you might have access to them since they're all over India as well. ys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 1999 Report Share Posted December 17, 1999 > Haribol prabhus, > PAMHO AGTSP > > Being off line for a while and there's a whole pletra of stuff to catch up > on. Seen the mention of 'benders' and stoves. Thought you might like to > know about the gas cyclinder type which Aniruddha made for us last year. Wow, great idea, gas cylinder stoves, excellent. I got the gist of the design, is there anyway you could get a photo of one, and scan it into a computer, so we can get some technical tips first hand? It would be especially helpful to show the welder, as people often grasp things a lot quicker with a picture. The flat plate you welded on, was it just welded on top of the curved cylinder side, or was the cylinder wall cut away, and then replaced by a flat plate? Did anyone make a back boiler in one? Thanks a lot for sharing that. YS Samba das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 1999 Report Share Posted December 20, 1999 Hare Krsna Thank you to everyone who has taken the time to respond on the topic "Are you living simply". However, now I would like to clarify my original purpose in entering this forum. Although all the topics of discussion;lamp oil, herbs, composting, etc. are interesting , I had a very specific purpose in mind. I want to find people, especially families, with an interest and experience in plain living, that would like to start a community specifically devoted to that lifestyle. I see Samba Prabhu in Mauritius, Madhava Gosh in West Virginia, and a few others scattered about the US and the world. I believe however that what is needed is to bring these few serious persons together in one place. Otherwise simple living that can last, be passed on to future generations and expanded will be difficult or impossible to develop. So I am submitting, not a topic for discussion but a call for practical implementation. To learn to grow food or make a lamp is relatively easy but to bring 5 or 10 families together to cooperatively live simply seems near impossible, but to me it seems necessary in order to do it properly. I will answer e-mails but would appreciate snail-mail from interested persons. Acarya dasa RD 1 Box 835-E Port Royal PA 17082 Thank you. Your servant Acarya dasa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 1999 Report Share Posted December 22, 1999 Haribol Samba prabhu, PAMHO AGTSP I don't think that they cut the cylinder round side before putting on the plate. Since most of the shops will close this week, I could try to scan a rough (very rough) sketch of the finished stove. I think that if you try to com Ani at Govindadwipa he might be a better man for technical descriptions, but I'll send what I can. Hope everythings going well ys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 1999 Report Share Posted December 22, 1999 Haribol Samba prabhu, PAMHO AGTSP I don't think that they cut the cylinder round side before putting on the plate. Since most of the shops will close this week, I could try to scan a rough (very rough) sketch of the finished stove. I think that if you try to com Ani at Govindadwipa he might be a better man for technical descriptions, but I'll send what I can. Hope everythings going well ys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 1999 Report Share Posted December 26, 1999 > Haribol Samba prabhu, > PAMHO AGTSP > > I don't think that they cut the cylinder round side before putting on the > plate. Since most of the shops will close this week, I could try to scan a > rough (very rough) sketch of the finished stove. I think that if you try > to com Ani at Govindadwipa he might be a better man for technical > descriptions, but I'll send what I can. Hope everythings going well ys Everything is OK here, except trying to adjust to rampant mid summer Christmas madness. Please if you could scan something it would be good, and I will also contact Ani. Thanks YS Samba das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 1999 Report Share Posted December 26, 1999 > Haribol Samba prabhu, > PAMHO AGTSP > > I don't think that they cut the cylinder round side before putting on the > plate. Since most of the shops will close this week, I could try to scan a > rough (very rough) sketch of the finished stove. I think that if you try > to com Ani at Govindadwipa he might be a better man for technical > descriptions, but I'll send what I can. Hope everythings going well ys Everything is OK here, except trying to adjust to rampant mid summer Christmas madness. Please if you could scan something it would be good, and I will also contact Ani. Thanks YS Samba das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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