GHQ (inhales strongly, but doesn't remove all life airs from the

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"COM: Prema Bhakti (dd) ACBSP (Lund - S)" wrote:

 

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> > Hopefully they are 9 times smarter than anyone who makes wild statements

> > without any "shastra pramana" AT ALL to back them up!

 

Not being bothered to make a case for someone I feel is unteachable is one

thing, that doesn't lead necessarily to the conclusion that there is no

shastra to back it up. The following is not sastra, but a conclusion based

on sastra from someone whose conclusion I will accept.

 

"We must stick to our Krsna consciousness business in all circumstances.

This determination will make us successful. Although according to the Vedic

system there is restriction that boys and girls should not freely mix, the

brahmacaries are strictly prohibited to talk with young women, but in the

Western countries this rule is not valid. As such, we have to accept both

boys and girls in the same standard. But if each of us follow the regulative

principles and chanting of the mantras hardly there will be any change for

sex indulgence. so we have to be little careful about it and Krsna will help

us.

(SPL to Upendra, June 24th, 1970)

 

Clinging to alledged "Vedic" principles based on sastra when the translator of

the sastra himself comes to an opposite conclusion makes me suspect why

someone would come to those conclusions. Since the common thread is making

women scapegoats, we need to explore why someone would make women

scapegoats.

 

Int J Psychoanal 1987;68 ( Pt 3):371-8

 

The longest pleasure: a psychoanalytic study of hatred.

 

Galdston R

 

The ability to hate is a skill indicative of ego development to the level of

object constancy. People can be divided into three categories: those who

cannot hate, those who hate but can not stop hating, and those who can both

hate and get over hating. Among those who cannot stop hating are two

sub-groups: those who live with their hatred by relying upon scapegoats, and

those who repress their knowledge of their hatred. The latter subgroup

includes a number of psychoanalytic patients whose repressed hatred presents a

specific obstacle to transference due to the persistence of a blocking

introject. Recovery from the complications of repressed hatred requires the

analyst to participate in the comforting process that strengthens the patient

through the retrieval of aggression lost to repression.

 

PMID: 3667085, UI: 88031939

 

Of course, now a flood of quotes from GHQ, condemning science, so

stipulated in advance.

 

I acknowledge that GHQ doesn't accept objective science, doesn't accept a

spiritual vision for society, and strongly pushes a material social system

that worked real well when people lived to be 1000 years old. I can live with

that.

 

My advice to GHQ - make a practical example of your philosophy that works,

but don't try shoving it down my throat. I can go with live and let live in

this matter, but if you keep provoking me, you will inevitably get a

response, a response that may not be in the best interest of you trying to

convince the naive that a material recreation of historical circumstances

described in sastra is the best path to Krsna Consciousness.

 

I agree with most of what the GHQ has to say, but it is sort of a sand in the

sweet rice type of deal. I'm just not going to eat that particular

manifestation of the sweet rice. Still like sweet rice, though.

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"COM: Prema Bhakti (dd) ACBSP (Lund - S)" wrote:

 

> [Text 2889608 from COM]

>

> >

> > Hopefully they are 9 times smarter than anyone who makes wild statements

> > without any "shastra pramana" AT ALL to back them up!

 

Not being bothered to make a case for someone I feel is unteachable is one

thing, that doesn't lead necessarily to the conclusion that there is no

shastra to back it up. The following is not sastra, but a conclusion based

on sastra from someone whose conclusion I will accept.

 

"We must stick to our Krsna consciousness business in all circumstances.

This determination will make us successful. Although according to the Vedic

system there is restriction that boys and girls should not freely mix, the

brahmacaries are strictly prohibited to talk with young women, but in the

Western countries this rule is not valid. As such, we have to accept both

boys and girls in the same standard. But if each of us follow the regulative

principles and chanting of the mantras hardly there will be any change for

sex indulgence. so we have to be little careful about it and Krsna will help

us.

(SPL to Upendra, June 24th, 1970)

 

Clinging to alledged "Vedic" principles based on sastra when the translator of

the sastra himself comes to an opposite conclusion makes me suspect why

someone would come to those conclusions. Since the common thread is making

women scapegoats, we need to explore why someone would make women

scapegoats.

 

Int J Psychoanal 1987;68 ( Pt 3):371-8

 

The longest pleasure: a psychoanalytic study of hatred.

 

Galdston R

 

The ability to hate is a skill indicative of ego development to the level of

object constancy. People can be divided into three categories: those who

cannot hate, those who hate but can not stop hating, and those who can both

hate and get over hating. Among those who cannot stop hating are two

sub-groups: those who live with their hatred by relying upon scapegoats, and

those who repress their knowledge of their hatred. The latter subgroup

includes a number of psychoanalytic patients whose repressed hatred presents a

specific obstacle to transference due to the persistence of a blocking

introject. Recovery from the complications of repressed hatred requires the

analyst to participate in the comforting process that strengthens the patient

through the retrieval of aggression lost to repression.

 

PMID: 3667085, UI: 88031939

 

Of course, now a flood of quotes from GHQ, condemning science, so

stipulated in advance.

 

I acknowledge that GHQ doesn't accept objective science, doesn't accept a

spiritual vision for society, and strongly pushes a material social system

that worked real well when people lived to be 1000 years old. I can live with

that.

 

My advice to GHQ - make a practical example of your philosophy that works,

but don't try shoving it down my throat. I can go with live and let live in

this matter, but if you keep provoking me, you will inevitably get a

response, a response that may not be in the best interest of you trying to

convince the naive that a material recreation of historical circumstances

described in sastra is the best path to Krsna Consciousness.

 

I agree with most of what the GHQ has to say, but it is sort of a sand in the

sweet rice type of deal. I'm just not going to eat that particular

manifestation of the sweet rice. Still like sweet rice, though.