Guest guest Posted December 31, 1999 Report Share Posted December 31, 1999 > Srila Prabhupada made unmarried woman brahmanas, said women can be temple presidents. GHQers say women can't be brahmanas, nor can there be woman temple presidents. > > > Too bad that so many initiated devotees don't have the full faith in his > words and teachings > It is highly offensive and simply slanderous to label as feminists > > devotees such as yourself who's only "crime" is to present in such a > transparent manner the teachings of Srila Prabhupada. Wonder what fate > awaits such offenders? Only Lord Krishna and He Himself in His form of Time > will tell... > > VaiSNava dAsanudAs, > > Basu Ghosh Das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 1999 Report Share Posted December 31, 1999 > > Too bad that so many initiated devotees don't have the full faith in his > words and teachings that your writings so nicely display. > Yeah. GHQ is indeed just a tiny island in this ISCKON ocean of faithlessness. Too bad, too bad... > It is highly offensive and simply slanderous to label as "misogynists" > devotees such as yourself who's only "crime" is to present in such a > transparent manner the teachings of Srila Prabhupada. What are you talking about, prabhuji? Somebody labeled here Guru-Krsna as a "misogynist"? I haven't seen, but to quote somebody, "If a shoe fits, then wear it". > Wonder what fate > awaits such offenders? Only Lord Krishna and He Himself in His form of > Time will tell... .... and Shyamasundar the astrologer, the GHQ general and the founder acarya. Hmmm... and we all almost got convinced here by your transparent and faithful echoist of Srila Prabhupada's teachings how "misogyny" is something quite insignificant, not worthy of public attention. But why do you only wonder about what kind of faith will meet the offenders of GHQ-ies?? Why don't you also pray to God for His mercy upon these poor and misguided souls? I heard that Krsna's devotees are even more compassionate than Krsna, and here you are, simply awaiting the Time to give you a free "cinema ticket"... Might take some time, yes, but patience is also said to be one of the Vaisnava qualities. But keep tuned.. - Mahanidhi das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 1999 Report Share Posted December 31, 1999 > On 31 Dec 1999, Madhava Gosh wrote: > > It is highly offensive and simply slanderous to label as > > feminists > No, it is not highly offensive or slanderous to refer to Vaisnavis who advocate gender equality within ISKCON as "feminists," since the definition of a feminist is "one who advocates the theory of the political, economic, and social equality of the sexes." Actually, this constant attack upon those who oppose feminism within ISKCON is very much like the scientsts' attack upon those who oppose darwinism. Curious, isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 1999 Report Share Posted December 31, 1999 > > > feminists > > > No, it is not highly offensive or slanderous to refer to Vaisnavis who > advocate gender equality within ISKCON as "feminists," since the > definition of a feminist is "one who advocates the theory of the > political, economic, and social equality of the sexes." In other words, to call a thief a thief is speaking the truth, yes? It only depends wether it is you who calls someone a thief, or is it someone who calls you a thief. So in the case of the former it is "saying the facts", while in the case of the later it is a "highly slanderous offence" punishable by Yamaraja. Typical. > Actually, this constant attack > upon those who oppose feminism within ISKCON is very much like the > scientsts' attack upon those who oppose darwinism. Curious, isn't it? Curiously, but you are using term "Vaisnavis" when referring to "one who advocates... [atheism]". While "one" is of no gender, you got only the females in your divine mind (as opposed to "darwinistic mind") to attribute to this trouble making. Typical. - Mahanidhi das (typical) Actually, this > constant attack upon those who oppose feminism within ISKCON is very much > like the scientsts' attack upon those who oppose darwinism. Curious, isn't > it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 1999 Report Share Posted December 31, 1999 On 31 Dec 1999, Madhava Gosh wrote: > > We know > > that the author of the above statement can provide no evidence of any "GHQer" > > (whatever that is!?) saying "can't be brahmanas, nor can there be woman > temple > > presidents," so we continue wonder what exactly he seeks to accomplish by > such > > consistently exaggerated claims. > > Next time someone says women can't be temple presidents, I'll refer them to > you > for similar calrification. In order for there to be a "next time," there has to have been a "first time." So prabhu, would you be so kind as to tell us who has said that women *can't* be temple presidents? Mahanidhi Prabhu, you are the expert in detecting straw-man arguments. Would you also be so kind as to 1) either declare the above as a straw-man argument, or 2) help Madhava Gosh Prabhu find a statement made by one of the "Gentl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 1999 Report Share Posted December 31, 1999 On 31 Dec 1999, Guru-Krsna Dasa wrote: > On 31 Dec 1999, Madhava Gosh wrote: > Next time someone says women can't be temple presidents, I'll refer >them to you for similar calrification. > In order for there to be a "next time," there has to have been a first time. So prabhu, would you be so kind as to tell us who has said that women *can't* be temple presidents? Mahanidhi Prabhu, you are the expert in detecting straw-man arguments. Would you also be so kind as to 1) either declare the above as a straw-man argument, or 2) help Madhava Gosh Prabhu find a statement made by one of the "Gentle & Humble Quarter" (GHQ) with which to verify his claim? Thanks in advance. you-know-who Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2000 Report Share Posted January 1, 2000 On 31 Dec 1999, Prema Bhakti wrote: >>Guru-Krsna Dasa wrote: >> No, it is not highly offensive or slanderous to refer to Vaisnavis who >> advocate gender equality within ISKCON as "feminists," since the >> definition of a feminist is "one who advocates the theory of the >> political, economic, and social equality of the sexes." >In other words, to call a thief a thief is speaking the truth, yes? And to call a belief a belief is speaking the truth, yes >It only depends wether it is you who calls someone a thief, or is it someone who calls you a thief. Unfortunately, too often "it all depends" on one's *belief*--truth being a subordinate concern. >So in the case of the former it is "saying the facts", while in the case >of the later it is a "highly slanderous offence" punishable by Yamaraja. >Typical. In the case of the former, whoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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