Guest guest Posted January 4, 1999 Report Share Posted January 4, 1999 Pamho. AgtSP! >Never said against women, prabhu! Better read my post again. :-) Maybe I misunderstood you. Anyway ;-) > Of course it does. :-) I was posting it for the "devoured by dogs" thing, > pretty intense. My initial point was that many oppose looking to Manu > Samhita, and when we talk about it, sometimes people get agitated because > of certain things in it. In addition, as Janesvara prabhu nicely pointed > out, maybe when we can follow the beginners guides, like Bhagavad Gita, > then we could give more consideration to the more complicated Manu > Samhita. What do you think? Manu laws were not just some kind of theoretical points. People lived in accordance with them in Vedic times, and they prospered and were quite happy. In our present time, of course, not every step is acceptable. So "devoured by dogs" is okey for previous ages, when the rules were more strict. Now in Kali-yuga no one is faultless, and if Manu laws would be applied to, then everyone should suffer from many severe punishments.Maybe you missed my points, since I already told it before. :-) We have to use a common sense and find things, which would be useful in varnasrama. BTW Hare Krishna dasi uses in her preaching not only Srila Prabhupada's instructions, but also applies scientific research and results are great. Therefore I don't see a problem in addressing Manu laws. Or Manu Smriti is worse than modern scientific magazines? Any scriptures can be interpreted in twisted way, even Srila Prabhupada's words (as we see in GHQ case). But it doesn't mean that there is a fault in scriptures. The problem is in our approach. Bhagavad Gita teaches us how be a good devotee, and Manu Samhita teaches us how to be a good citizen in varnasrama. So I think both processes should be there. Actually in Eleventh Canto of SB, Lord Krishna gave so many instructions for varnasrama, which are practically non different from those in Manu Samhita. I haven't seen a single person who strictly follows *all* of them. Have you? I guess not. But *some* instructions can be easily handled by anybody. So let us use yukta vairagya, accept favourable and reject unfavourable. About agitation, I didn't become agitated by reading Manusmriti. Rather, it pasified my mind. I'm sorry if anyone was displeased. Next questions for conference: What prevents us from establishment of varnasrama? How can we remove these obstacles? (rather old question) I haven't got answer on my previos question: duties of ksatriya women? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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