Guest guest Posted February 10, 1999 Report Share Posted February 10, 1999 > , > In ideal, GBC should be respected) After years of cynicism, that could be tough for me! It actually made me feel wierd to be supporting the GBC in the matter of the existence of the Women's Ministry. Also, the reinvigoration of the Agricultural Ministry was a bright spot, and the seeming acceptence of the Cow Standards as proposed by that Ministry gives me reasons to think maybe there is hope for the GBC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 1999 Report Share Posted February 11, 1999 On 10 Feb 1999, Madhava Gosh wrote: > > , > > In ideal, GBC should be respected) > > After years of cynicism, that could be tough for me! Real tough! Respect is earned over a long period of consistency in appropriate behavior to the position. We have seen consistent neglect of taking up the orders of the spiritual master as regards VAD for 25 years straight. >It actually made me feel > wierd to be supporting the GBC in the matter of the existence of the Women's > Ministry. Yea, but you ARE weird Gosh!:-) > Also, the reinvigoration of the Agricultural Ministry was a bright spot, and > the seeming acceptence of the Cow Standards as proposed by that Ministry gives > me reasons to think maybe there is hope for the GBC. It's all lip service so far just as it has been for 25 years. Let's see some endowment money from the rich "sannyasis" coffers before we give too much credit. They can accept the standards for Cow protection but they can just as easily refuse to raise/purchase cows and thereby not have to worry about the standards. Quite frankly, I have once again, for the 25th year in a row, not seen very much practical management subjects discussed or legislated at the management (GBC) meetings in Mayapura. Just more treatment of the symptoms of the disease in order to keep their well paid positions. VAD hardly received but a few breaths in the meetings. And they wonder why there is so much chaos? I think I will take sannyasa, threaten a whole bunch of trouble for ISKCON and wait for my check for a million dollars so I can finally retire in comfort. I'm sure none of the other devotees will mind them giving their hard earned money to me, will they? They will probably actually pay me because they must have doubts in their devotional service and therefore doubt that Krsna will protect them from such threats. We've come a long way in the last 25 years, huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 1999 Report Share Posted February 11, 1999 Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada! > The quiet before the storm? I think we have seen a lot of storms already. > Hopefully this is more like "It's always darkest before the dawn". > Maybe the problem is that we are living in the different hemispheres. When the sun is rising in USA, it's getting dark in the Europe. Anyway, time will show who was right. > How many were there? I just get forwarded emails so am not adept at, or > rarely in, COM itself. > I just checked VAD's status - so there are 125 member around the world, but about 20% of them doesn't seem to receive texts. Still there remains quite many devotees, who humbly receive (and maybe even read!) all the mail, it's enough to fill up a big temple room. There some types of members: 'cinema on-lookers', who just watch and enjoy the picture, 'theather spectators', who are also silent, but take to heart everything, and sometimes they shout 'Bravo!', 'actors', who are on the podium,'students', who make conspects and ask important questions, 'peacemakers', who are in search to smash some 'mayavadi', 'bar attenders', who feel quite confortable here and don't see anything bad in load laugh,'street stranger', who came to this onference by mistake and soon they leave it. Of course, there also FBIs, CIAs and KGBs. And so on. So I beg excuse of all humble vaisnavas, who are so shy to show their own opinions, which are actually valuable for the process of discussion, that I show my opinion more often. BTW, there is also an unindentified r with this address: varnasrama-development (AT) gbc (DOT) bbt.se Maybe it means that GBC is paying some attention to this conference, I don't know. But let us be vigilant! (I mean don't use foul language and grude words. It would bring a serious psychological trauma to GBC and COM Sysop would one day cancel the conference and all it's members. Remember: if you consider foul language acceptable, that's mean you support it! In ideal, GBC should be respected) Then there is also ISKCON Social and Economic development conference, where are 81 members. But many of them are already members of varnasrama conference. >> Let's enjoy the silence. > >Hare Krsna Kare Krsna >Krsna Krsna Hare Hare >Hare Rama Hare Rama >Rama Rama Hare Hare Nice chanting, Prabhu! Now you see that it's much better to chant in silent room. Your humble servant, bhakta Oleg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 1999 Report Share Posted April 16, 1999 > In ideal, GBC should be respected. >> Also, the reinvigoration of the Agricultural Ministry was a bright spot, >> and the seeming acceptence of the Cow Standards as proposed by that >> Ministry gives me reasons to think maybe there is hope for the GBC. It seems they are on the right way. Hopefully I too. Haribol friends, I.m back on COM, hope everyone is fine and happy, and if someone felt offendet or otherwise uncomfortable by my sharp tonge in the past, please forgive me, I promise to argue in a moore civilized way for advancing the sake of varnasrama dharma in our society. It seems we have still a long way to go, until that becomes true. But for everything there is the right time, I think Krsna wants us to be moore patient and prepare ourself better for it, what do you think? Yhs. Harsi das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 1999 Report Share Posted April 17, 1999 > It seems they are on the right way. Hopefully I too. Haribol friends, I.m > back on COM, hope everyone is fine and happy, and if someone felt offendet > or otherwise uncomfortable by my sharp tonge in the past, please forgive > me, I promise to argue in a moore civilized way for advancing the sake of > varnasrama dharma in our society. > It seems we have still a long way to go, until that becomes true. But for > everything there is the right time, I think Krsna wants us to be moore > patient and prepare ourself better for it, what do you think? Haribol, Harsi! Nice to have you back. I don't think that you behaved very much worse than many others in the discussion which got you suspended, you just said the wrong thing at the wrong time, at least in the eyes of the sysop. Now that is all over and done with, and that is good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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