Guest guest Posted March 12, 1999 Report Share Posted March 12, 1999 Haribol to everyone. I've just find in mailbox a message from "Ask HDG" conference about a topic, which is significant. I wanted to fully understand the same thing about this verse long time ago. So let's try a brainstorm session about it, shall we? I'm still a bit confused, even with HDG answer. >Thu, 11 Mar 99 18:25 -0500 >"COM: Bharata Srestha (das) HDG (IPSET, CA - USA)" > <Bharata.Srestha.HDG (AT) com (DOT) bbt.se> >Sender: Bharata.Srestha.HDG (AT) com (DOT) bbt.se >Bharata.Srestha.HDG (AT) com (DOT) bbt.se, Ask.HDG (AT) com (DOT) bbt.se >"COM: Ask HDG" <Ask.HDG (AT) com (DOT) bbt.se> >QUERY >[Text 2152999 from COM] > >Several devotees don't understand two of the statements (marked by >asterisks) in the following purport. It says that sudras are expected to >become brahmanas. Would you please help us out? According to the devotees >who presented this question, it's difficult to understand how a sudra by >guna and karma can adopt the guna and karma of a brahmana, as specified by >Srila Prabhupada. > >Bhag. 5.26.23 > >TRANSLATION >The shameless husbands of lowborn sudra women live exactly like animals, and >therefore they have no good behavior, cleanliness or regulated life. After >death, such persons are thrown into the hell called Puyoda, where they are >put into an ocean filled with pus, stool, urine, mucus, saliva and similar >things. Sudras who could not improve themselves fall into that ocean and are >forced to eat those disgusting things. > >PURPORT >Srila Narottama dasa Thakura has sung, >karma-kanda, jnana-kanda, kevala visera banda, >amrta baliya yeba khaya >nana yoni sada phire, kadarya bhaksana kare, >tara janma adah-pate yaya >He says that persons following the paths of karma-kanda and jnana-kanda >(fruitive activities and speculative thinking) are missing the opportunities >for human birth and gliding down into the cycle of birth and death. Thus >there is always the chance that he may be put into the Puyoda Naraka, the >hell named Puyoda, where one is forced to eat stool, urine, pus, mucus, >saliva and other abominable things. > >It is significant that this verse is spoken especially about sudras. If one >is born a sudra, he must continually return to the ocean of Puyoda to eat >horrible things. ***Thus even a born sudra is expected to become a >brahmana;*** that is the meaning of human life. Everyone should improve >himself. Krsna says in Bhagavad-gita (4.13), catur-varnyam maya srstam >guna-karma-vibhagasah: "According to the three modes of material nature and >the work ascribed to them, four divisions of human society were created by >Me." ***Even if one is by qualification a sudra, he must try to improve his >position and become a brahmana. No one should try to check a person, no >matter what his present position is, from coming to the platform of a >brahmana or a Vaisnava.*** Actually, one must come to the platform of a >Vaisnava. Then he automatically becomes a brahmana. > >This can be done only if the Krsna consciousness movement is spread, for we >are trying to elevate everyone to the platform of Vaisnava. As Krsna says in >Bhagavad-gita (18.66), sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja: >"Abandon all other duties and simply surrender unto Me." One must give up >the occupational duties of a sudra, ksatriya or vaisya and adopt the >occupational duties of a Vaisnava, which include the activities of a >brahmana. Krsna explains this in Bhagavad-gita (9.32): >mam hi partha vyapasritya >ye 'pi syuh papa-yonayah >striyo vaisyas tatha sudras >te 'pi yanti param gatim >"O son of Prtha, those who take shelter in Me, though they be of lower >birth-women, vaisyas [merchants], as well as sudras [workers]-can approach >the supreme destination." Human life is specifically meant for going back >home, back to Godhead. That facility should be given to everyone, whether >one be a sudra, a vaisya, a woman or a ksatriya. This is the purpose of the >Krsna consciousness movement. However, if one is satisfied to remain a >sudra, he must suffer as described in this verse: tad evatibibhatsitam >asnanti. And then HH HDG answered: >[Text 2153000 from COM] > >I think that Prabhupada's purport is clear. To become a brahmana means to >cultivate and develop the brahminical qualities. That is the effect of >seriously practicing Krishna consciousness. >With best wishes, >Hridayananda das Goswami Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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