Guest guest Posted March 11, 1999 Report Share Posted March 11, 1999 I was wondering if Mother Hare Krishna and others could comment on this letter. BY PRTHA DEVI DASI EDITORIAL, Feb 10 (VNN) — One should not find it a manifestation of pride to follow the instructions of the pure devotee, even when such instructions appear to be different from *some* parts of the scripture which were selectively picked. However, one must not allow pride to get in the way of following Prabhupada's instructions even when they do not please their senses, as some women find much sense gratification in viewing themselves as lowborn. It is really low self-esteem and therefore they will never hear truth about this topic because they don't want to, unless they heal. It can also be arrogance, sometimes. One can claim to be the *best worst there ever was.* The lowest of the low. It makes a person sound so humble, but it is chest thumping. Also, by doing this one (thinks they) can escape responsibility to Srila Prabhupada claiming, "I was just a lowborn sudra woman. I couldn't do what you wanted Prabhupada." Real humility is not found by accepting the body we are in, real humility is accepting Prabhupada's instruction to transcend it. When people enjoy the body they're in (men or women), or are attached to it in some way, they argue any philosophy that advocates getting beyond it. To accept woman as lowborn sudra is the caste system of varnasrama-dharma. "When He (Lord Chaitanya) met Sri Ramananda Raya on the banks of the Godavari, the varnashrama-dharma followed by Hindus was mentioned by the Lord. Sri Ramananda Raya said that by following the principles of varnashrama-dharma and four orders of human life, everyone could realize transcendence. In the opinion of the Lord, the system of varnashrama-dharma is superficial only and it has very little to do with the highest realization of spiritual values." Srimad Bhagavatam, Introduction. "The system of varnashrama-dharma is more or less based on moral principles. There is very little realization of the Transcendence as such, and Lord Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu rejected it as superficial and asked Ramananda Raya to go further into the matter." Srimad Bhagavatam, Introduction. "the institution of varnashrama-dharma is used by selfish men to pose an artificial predominance over the weaker section." Srimad Bhagavatam 1:2:13 "Sri Sukadeva Goswami was a Vaisnava from the beginning, therefore there was no need for him to undergo all the processes of the varnasrama-dharma institution. Ultimately the aim of varnasrama-dharma is to turn a *crude* man into a pure devotee of the Lord, or a Vaisnava. Anyone, therefore, who becomes a Vaisnava accepted by the first class Vaisnava, or Uttama-adhikari Vaisnava, is already considered a brahmana, regardless of his birth or past deeds." Srimad Bhagavatam 1:2:2 According to this verse, one who has surrendered to the pure devotee uttama- adhikari is no longer to be viewed as sudra. This verse does not give women an easy-out, as they must become brahmana too. Not rubber-stamped by marriage, the caste varnashrama-dharma system, but through Srila Prabhupada, the uttama- adhikari. "But Chaitanya Mahaprabhu said, 'This is external. Say something better.' So in this way Ramananda Raya was putting some better proposal than varnashrama- dharma." Srimad Bhagavatam Lecture, 1972. "The system of caste, or varnashrama-dharma, is no longer regular even amongst so-called followers of the system. Nor is it now possible to reestablish the institutional function in the present context of social, political and economic revolution. Without any reference to the particular custom of a country, one can be accepted to the Vaisnava cult, and there is no hindrance in the transcendental process. So by the order of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu, the cult of Srimad Bhagavatam or Bhagavad-gita can be preached all over the world reclaiming all persons willing to accept the transcendental cult. Such cultural propaganda by the devotees will certainly be accepted by persons who are reasonable and inquisitive without any particular bias for the custom of the country. The Vaisnava never accepts another Vaisnava on the basis of birthright, just as he never thinks of the Deity of the Lord in a temple as an idol. And to remove all doubts in this connection, Srila Sukadeva Goswami has invoked the blessings of the Lord, who is all-powerful (prabhavisnave namaha). As the all-powerful Lord accepts the humble service of His devotee in devotional service of the arcana, His form as the worshipable Deity in the temple, similarly the body of a pure Vaisnava changes when he gives himself up to the service of the Lord and is trained by a qualified Vaisnava. The injunction of the Vaisnava regulation in this connection runs as follows: arcye visnau silar-dhir gurusu nara-matir vaisnave jati-buddhi sri-vaisnor namni sabda-samanya-buddhi, etc. 'One should not consider the Deity of the Lord as worshipable in the temple to be an idol, nor should one consider the authorized spiritual master as an ordinary man. Nor should one consider a pure Vaisnava to belong to a particular caste, etc.' " Srimad Bhagavatam 2:4:18 First, just for the record, cult in this sense means culture. Secondly, according to Srimad Bhagavatam, anyone who has taken spiritual initiation is not to be viewed according to birthright, or as lowborn sudra. It is an offense. Thirdly, while one may argue that we are not pure devotees, the only way to become pure is by discontinuing the caste system of varnasrama-dharma and following the transcendental instructions of Srila Prabhupada, our uttama- adhikari. * Srila Prabhupada said about Yamuna devi dasi in the early 70s that she had reached the stage of bhava. * "So far as your question regarding women, I have always accepted the service of women *without any discrimination,* so I have no objection if Yamuna devi contributes her ideas on this construction project. Nothing should be done without group consultation." Letter to Guru Dasa, 1972 * "I am very glad to know that you are engaged as pujari there. Try to learn this art of arcana very nicely... I wish that all our girl devotees be expert in the matter of arcana." Letter to Kancanbala, 1970. Your Servant, Prtha devi dasi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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