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> PS. I am just making my arguments on my way, I hope you will not

> become upset with me. You've just told me:

 

This argument really sums up my entire point. We are reading the Bhagavatam

day and night (well I'm actualy not that regular, but it makes a good

point), I read black and you read white.

 

Are you really sure we dont need any help trying to resolve it all? I have

my perspective on what Prabhupada says and you have yours, will we ever

agree? The movement seems to split into more factions as the days go by, yet

we all read the same books, that says to me that we need help.

 

Srila Bhaktisiddhanta specificaly points out that once having read the

Thakur's works using ones empiric faculty, one cannot escape the basic

conclusion, which is that in order to FULLY understand one needs to HEAR the

message from the pure soul. This is not my argument it is his. He says you

only have to be honest to understand *that much* (in other words, it is

possible for us to understand that much without the help of a realised

sadhu.). The rest requires guidance.

 

He says it like this:

"There have however arisen serious misunderstandings regarding the proper

interpretation of the life and teachings of Thakura Bhaktivinoda. Those who

suppose they understand the meaning of his message without securing the

guiding grace of the acarya are disposed to unduly favour the method of

empiric study of his writings. There are persons who have got by heart

almost everything that he wrote without being able to catch the least

particle of his meaning. Such study cannot benefit those who are not

prepared to act up to the instructions lucidly conveyed by his words. There

is no honest chance of missing the warnings of Thakura Bhaktivinoda."

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Such study cannot benefit those who are not prepared to act up to the

instructions lucidly conveyed by his words. There is no honest chance of

missing the warnings of Thakura Bhaktivinoda."

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Anyway Prabhu, I also apologise if I got a bit 'hot under the collar' in my

responses to you. I think one problem I am having is that I am not quite

grasping the way you format the English in your arguments.

 

If you dont mind I would like to bow out of this discussion, it is getting a

bit over my head. Actualy I am not very learned, I just like to get clued up

on the basics, and to me this is pretty basic, I believe Bhaktisiddhanta.

 

I hope that is OK (and I am not trying to be sarcastic).

YS

Sd