Guest guest Posted May 10, 1999 Report Share Posted May 10, 1999 > On 09 May 1999, Jatukarnya das wrote: > > > > > > I am sure that there actually was a difference between how secure > Curiously, simply claiming to have a maha-bhagavata guru wasn't enought to > save the vast majority of Srila Prabhupada's diksa disciples from > extensive devotional difficulty. Conversely, there are examples of > grand-disciples who have had two, three, sometimes more diksa gurus yet > have remained strong through out the ordeal. > > So there might be something much deeper to all this that joining an > official maha-bhagavata camp. Well you have to be sincere isn't it. I mean many of Prabhupadas disciples turned out to be rascals and left ISKCON for other camps etc. or worse. But if you are really sincere, despite getting cheated a few times, that will only build your character. If you are actualy a cheater in your own heart, then do you really ever actualy 'have' someone like Srila Prabhupada as your guru? Did he really accept rascals, even if it 'appeared' like he accepted them? Maybe he accepted whatever they could give for the mission, but will he come back for them? Sd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 1999 Report Share Posted May 10, 1999 > > > So there might be something much deeper to all this that joining an official > maha-bhagavata camp. > > ys, > > Sthita It's the sampradaya that is more important than the individual connection to the sampradaya. Guru is one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 1999 Report Share Posted May 10, 1999 > Few points-- > > First, I don't believe the issue is one of questioning a devotees > qualification, just offering an opportunity for the other Vaisnavas to > weigh in on the subject before ISKCON makes an official decision. A diksa > guru working within ISKCON also has a relationship with the rest of the > society as a member in good standing. I anticipate that the GBC offers > clear guidelines on the procedure. > > Second, any organizational plan will have it's shortcomings -- that is the > nature of the material world. We try to find the best policy that does the > most good for the most people based on guru/sadhu/sastra. With a little > intelligence, one often can find a way to work within the frame work of an > even a modestly englightened policy. > > Third, it is an important principle of Vaisnavism to seek the blessings of > the other devotees before taking on an important service to Lord Krsna. > Certainly seeking the blessings of one's godbrothers is not out of line > with Vaisnava ettiquette, especially in a service as important as giving > shelter to younger devotees. > > And finally, the guru/disciple relationship is not an exclusive franchise > of any particular institution. But if one wishes to offer diksa initiation > as a member of ISKCON in good standing, than this minimunal procedure has > been for recognition within our society. Points noted. Ys Jkd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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