Guest guest Posted May 16, 1999 Report Share Posted May 16, 1999 Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada. > I also asked a question a while ago but never got an answer: Arjuna is the > beginning of our parampara. When did he take diksa and who are his diksa > disciples? Arjuna: "Now I am confused about my duty and have lost all composure because of miserly weakness. in this condition I am asking You to tell me for certain what is best for me. Now I am Your disciple, and a soul surrendered unto You. Please instruct me. Purport By nature's own way the complete system of material activities is a source of perplexity for everyone. In every step there is perplexity, and therefore it behooves one to approach a bona fide spiritual master who can give one proper guidance for executing the purpose of life. All Vedic literatures advise us to approach a bona fide spiritual master to get free from the perplexities of life, which happen without our desire..... Being intelligent, Arjuna could understand that his affection for family members and his wish to protect them from death were the causes of his perplexities. Although he could understand that his duty to fight was awaiting him, still, on account of miserly weakness, he could not discharge the duties. He is therefore asking Lord Krishna, the supreme spiritual master, to make a definite solution. He offers himself to Krsna as a disciple. He wants to stop friendly talks. Talks between the master and the disciple are serious, and now Arjuna wants to talk very seriously before the recognized spiritual master. Krsna is therefor the original spiritual master of the science of Bhagavad Gita, and Arjuna is the first disciple for understanding the Gita." ( Bh.G. 2.7.) Lord Sri Krishna: " Abandon all varieties of religion and just surrender unto Me. I shall deliver you from all sinful reactions. Do not fear. Purport: Now in summarizing Bhagavad Gita, the Lord says that Arjuna should give up all the processes that have been explained to him; he should simply surrender to Krsna. That surrender will save him from all kinds of sinful reactions. for the Lord personally promises to protect him." (Bh.G. 18.66.) This I would think to be the diksa of Arjuna, the Bhagavad Gita complete, first a lot of siksa and then the Lord gives His promise. Disciples of Arjuna I dont know but the following took place simultaniously as you know. It seems to be a confirmation that spiritual knowledge does not have to be recieved directly,physically but also that to recieve it we have to be connected to the parampara. Sanjaya: "By the mercy of Vyasa, I have heard these most confidential talks directly from the master of all mysticism, Krsna, who was speaking personally to Arjuna. Purport. Vyasa was the spiritual master of Sanjaya, and Sanjaya admits that it was by Vyasas mercy that he could understand the Supreme Personality of Godhead. This means that one has to understand Krishna not directly but through the medium of the spiritual master. The spiritual master is the transparent medium, although it is true that the experience is still direct. This is the mystery of the disciplic succession." What is your definition of diksa? And if you find formal diksa unnessecary then what is the need of ritvikpriests? Thank you for encouraging me to get a deeper understanding of Srila Prabhupada's books. With all respect Your servant Gunamani d.d. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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