Guest guest Posted June 13, 1999 Report Share Posted June 13, 1999 On 12 Jun 1999, Hare Krsna dasi wrote: "WWW: Janesvara (Dasa) ACBSP (Syracuse - USA)" wrote: > > How can those > > claiming to be "leaders" not make this a priority when they claim to be the > > "leaders" of a culture which clearly prioritized it. It is very clearly NOT a > > priority in the minds of these so-called leaders - there is only talk. > > Sometime I need to address this problem of painting all of ISKCON's leaders > with > the same brush. I am not "painting them all with the same brush" despite how you may interpret any of my comments. I am only painting those who are claiming to be "leaders" but who are not making varnasrama-dharma a priority. If they are, and I will give you the benefit of the doubt that there are some (though I see very little manifestation), they ARE leaders. That is great. But why not ALL of them? Why is there not a consensus amongst the GBC? Certainly if Srila Prabhupada were here and he reiterated his varnasrama morning walk conversations of '74 and his Valentine's Day '77 conversations he would require a consensus, nay, a unanimity, of the GBC to follow his clear orders on implementing VAD within ISKCON. The GBC is not even close on this. As long as the rank and file remain apathetic to bad leadsership, the manufactured social system of the GBC will continue unabated with similar results as has been seen over the last 25 years. If they feel that this is success and progressive advancement of Lord Caitanya's para upakara program then I guess I am beating a dead horse and I will leave them to their demise. (Nah, I wouldn't do that! Then I would have to shutup.) > Several of them have worked to provide a substantial amount of > funding which is the only reason why this varnasrama book can be written. A > number of other ones are quietly starting self-sufficient communities at > different > parts in the world. These ARE positives and I fully acknowledge this. > Admittedly, some are afraid of varnasrama -- but I think > you > might be surprised at how many of ISKCON's leaders are really supportive of > varnasrama. They are cautious, but they are pushing things forward. Yes, but in what or WHOSE direction? Are they going to start varnasrama colleges in EVERY center for EVERY devotee EVERYDAY? Are they going to preach VAD in accordance with Srila Prabhupada's prescribed instructions as detailed in the aforementioned VAD conversations? Or are they going to manufacture THEIR interpretation of VAD? C'mon after 25 years and 3 months of waiting, what sane person, truly desiring to see Srila Prabhupada's instructions on VAD implemented in order to take advantage of them himself, could remain silently patient? One could make a pretty good case against continuing with such "leaders" when their record has so many blemishes. If there were voters deciding I think not too many "leaders" would last more than a couple of years. Also, normally, their is some sort of retribution for neglect of leaders in order to deter such action in the future. If someone, who is specifically in a leadership position, establishes a long record of neglecting the orders of the spiritual master regarding social leadership, why would intelligent citizens not seek removal of the "leader" from office. This is Vedic. You don't have to kill the guy or anything close to that. He should simply be reengaged elswise because he has proven himself not a leader. You don't BECOME qualified magically by continuing to fumble around. You EARN it by hard work and conviction to the established goal in the varna you are truly suited for. That has hardly been the case with ISKCON "leaders" and VAD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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