The Soul's Fall... The Final Word

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On 10 Jul 1999, Mahananda Dasa wrote:

 

> But I would at this time like to post

> this very informative lecture by Srila Prabhupada that may help those on

both

> sides of the debate.

 

Indeed, but why title the message "The soul's fall" when it

repeatedly and clearly says:

 

"Actually we are not fallen.We cannot be fallen."

"We are not fallen."

"We are thinking that we are fallen. So we have to give up

this nonsense thinking."

 

The examples are not limited to this lecture:

 

Bhagavatam 1.15.27 purport: "The material activity of the living

being is beginningless, but it can be rectified by transferal into the

spiritual quality. Thus it can cease its material qualitative

reactions."

 

Bhaagavatam 7.1.35 purport: "Therefore it is to be understood that

when Jaya and Vijaya descended to this material world, they came

because there was something to be done for the Supreme Personality of

Godhead. Otherwise it is a fact that no one falls from Vaikuntha."

 

Further, there is the last sentence of Bhagavatam 1.1.1:

 

 

"dhaamnaa svena sadaa nirasta\-kuhakaM satyaM paraM dhiimahi"

 

"I therefore meditate upon Him, Lord Sri Krishna, who is

eternally existent in the transcendental abode, which is

forever free from the illusory representations of the material

world. I meditate upon Him, for He is the Absolute Truth."

 

A dream is most certainly an illusory representation; consequently, it

is not sensible to say that the spiritual world can include dreams of

the material world while still remaining "forever free from the

illusory representations of the material world."

 

This is also clear from the lecture posted:

 

"In his pure consciousness, however, there is no such

misconceived dream, and in that pure conscious state the

living entity does not forget that he is never the Lord, but

he is eternally the servitor of the Lord in transcendental

love."

 

Yours,

 

Vijay