Guest guest Posted July 15, 1999 Report Share Posted July 15, 1999 > > Yes, the word "when" as applied in these cross-temporal situations does > not imply a discrete point in material time. In terms of the fall, it > applies eternally backwards from the point of liberation. And in other > cases, it can always apply along the whole spectrum of material time-past, > present, and future. It may be so that it does not imply a "discrete" point in time, be it material or spiritual. The real issue here is to what kind of conclusion we are interested to come by analyzing the words. To me, from this particular Srila Prabhupada's purport, it is quite clear that Srila Prabhupada speaks about the living entity that somehow or other ended up in this material existence. Is it so or is it not so? And WHAT *information* Srila Prabhupada is giving us about that living entity? That he used to be living together peacefully with the Lord in the spiritual world. Is it so, or is it not so? That's all. Now, it is out of any importance WHAT "other" meanings of the word "when" are being given by some OED, so far so we keep the above information intact. If this manipulation with the words "when" and "original" leads us to some to conclusion that the living entity was never before living with Krsna together in His abode, and that *this* is what Prabhupada is trying to say to us in his purport, then such over intelligence of ours is simply bogus and a nonsense. Vijay's attempt to prove (by using his OED) how Prabhupada meant here that the living entity was not with Krsna *prior* to his conditional existence in this world, but is perhaps "material-world-born living entity" (like "American-born Indian") is really upsetting. It is kind of ridiculing with this purport of Srila Prabhupada and with everybody's intelligence here. - mnd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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