Guest guest Posted July 16, 1999 Report Share Posted July 16, 1999 On 16 Jul 1999, Samba das wrote: > > I was not quite sure if you were reffering to me regarding being 'holier than thou'. > no > > As far as building enthusiasm is concerned. That reminds me of a Newsweek article I once read entitled 'Feeling good about doing bad'. It was about the programs they have for American schoolkids, who have terrible grades, but are encouraged to feel good anyway as that is the healthy thing to do. > If someone is actually trying their best, then at least they can feel good they gave it their best shot. But I don't know if that in any way relates to this Newsweek story. On the other hand, making people feel 'bad' about being 'good' may not be so 'good' either. Generally making people feel bad and inadequate makes them look elsewhere for hope and encouragement. > > Unfortunately the truth is that I am not very eager to meet a pure soul. That is my problem. I do think I should be eager, and I think others should be eager. > Possibly we aren't as determined to relate with Krsna in pure devotional service as we might like to think. But then that we may have any determination at all is no small thing -- certainly it is something we should take as precious and cultivate with the utmost care possible. > So if I reccomend that we should aspire to take > initiation from a mahabhagavata, it is because that seems logical to me, and sometimes I give some reasons for it. > To me, sometimes we just have to get on with our lives, utilizing whatever Krsna desires to send us for help. He is unlimited in his potencies and our best friend as well. He may already be sending us so many advanced devotees to help. We should be careful not to be looking with our eyes wide shut. > For instance, Ameyatma prabhu recently made that comment about > some girls smiling at him, and he reccomended that the girl should be > married. Can we not give him the benefit of the doubt that he knows what kind of smile he saw? > Quite possibly he did. All you have to do most times is look back like your not interested. If that doesn't work, you might look back like, "what are you out of your mind or something?" I can wholeheartedly attest to the employment of these oh so subtle strategies. Telling a devotee father that it would be nice if his teenage daughter or son where well situated in a proper KC relationship is like telling a teacher it would be good if his students learned how to read. To me it's just a big overintelligent duh. > And even if he was wrong, even if the girl was > completely innocent, is there something wrong in the advice that teenage girls should be married? I am sure the father will do the right thing for his daughter (hopefully). > It almost seems like you guys must not have kids, at least not kids in real life. Yeah, I bet this poor guy never thought about his daughter getting married until Ameyatma came up to him and insinuated his daughter was lusting over him in kirtan. I bet the guy ran out and ordered her a suitable husband before the end of the week. > > Why do we have to spend so much time criticising each other? Why not try to understand the good points? Is this conference simply a place to pull each other down, or can we try to do something about getting varnasrama going? > > I am very sorry that I am being critical. But this particular situation with the kid smiling in kirtan at an ISKCON senior citizen seems incredulous to me. Whatever the kid's problem (most likely simply being a human being) she was in kirtan. Why make her feel like a jerk by more or less telling her father that she's so lusty she's agitating a some middle aged 'Protector of Vedic Dharma'. Yep, that takes the cake as far as insightful applications of KC go in my book. On the other hand, maybe I'm just envious that all the teenagers seem to be smiling at Ameyatma and not me. ys, Sthita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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